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Old 07-24-2012, 03:13 PM
 
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Oh good grief
Sorry, but them's the truth. Awareness that the victim has no wish to change. Adherent prays for a vastly powerful spirit [usually, and obviously in this case, without the victim's knowledge] to change that person's mind against their will, to do the will of the caster and/or his spirit. What part isn't clear?
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Old 03-31-2013, 03:03 PM
 
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My religious roomate, who attends a whole bunch of bible studies and other religious get togethers, left out a piece of paper that reads...

Name five people you peraonally know are unsaved.

I was the second one listed.

Firstly, unsaved from what? God? Death? The "afterlife"...whatever that is?

Secondly, at what point did it become acceptable to discuss my religious convictions (of which I have little/any) when I'm not even there to defend them? It's like I'm being judged by a group of people who hardly know me! Pretentious much?

Thirdly, if they must know, I'm not anti god. I'm anti humans trying to understand god. He/She/It is beyond my understanding. If he/she/it makes everything the way it is, I do not understand his/her/its rational. I gave up trying to. I've made peace with just living a moral life, as much as I know how, (with godly ideas mixed in), and hoping that that will be enough. If I did my best, how can god fault me for that?

Maybe I didn't do his best...but he/she/it is god after all...how could I have been expected to?

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. (Isa 55:8-9)
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Old 03-31-2013, 03:05 PM
 
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Keep searching for God dub He will answer all your Questions .
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Old 03-31-2013, 04:48 PM
 
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Your Christian Roomate most likely has that list because he routinely prays over those list of names out of genuine concern and love so they can also experience the joy of knowing where they are going after this short interlude of life which is like a midst, then it is over. I cannot tell you why he put you on the list but after reading this post, you arent saved . The word 'saved' means that a person is not held accountable for their many accumulated sins whether willful or not planned . Its something that every Human Being needs because we are all born into Sin , that, is, being rebellious to the things of God, God himself, and making immoral self serving choices . This is the condition of Mankind. Gods global plan of salvation is to offer us a method to be reconciled back to God so we know we are forgiven and so we can know for sure that our next eternal residence will be with God and not eternally apart from God .

Getting saved is a free undeserved gift from our Creator and it is very easy to do if you choose to : Romans 10:8-14 NASB - But what does it say? . It IS totally based on what Jesus Christ has done and not on what WE can do or how 'good' we think we are. We dont have to be a murderer in order to be unsaved have a bad eternity... just living a life rejecting, mocking, distancing ourselves from God and how he wants you to live will do it. Many many people , perhaps sweet little ol women who raised a nice family and now bake cakes for the Homeless will die UNsaved from their many sins if they dont specifically get them taken care of by trusting Christs substituionary death alone because getting saved isnt based on anything we can do.

Now would be a great time for you at a young age to look into this further and explore the spiritual nature God has infused you with by attending a local Evangelical Church which may even have a Young Adult Singles Group for fun and making new friends who are like minded. Im not talking about getting into religiousity, but, im talking about a real personal dynamic life relationship with the One who gave up his life on a cross for you so you can be called a Child of the Most High God.

College age people is when these folks typically start getting deeply into immoral and dangerous lifestyles oftentimes suffering lifetime regret .; Gods plans are always better but its up to your Will and no one elses. Regards.
If a religion excuses people from being accountable how is that a good thing?
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Old 03-31-2013, 04:50 PM
 
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My religious roomate, who attends a whole bunch of bible studies and other religious get togethers, left out a piece of paper that reads...

Name five people you peraonally know are unsaved.

I was the second one listed.

Firstly, unsaved from what? God? Death? The "afterlife"...whatever that is?

Secondly, at what point did it become acceptable to discuss my religious convictions (of which I have little/any) when I'm not even there to defend them? It's like I'm being judged by a group of people who hardly know me! Pretentious much?

Thirdly, if they must know, I'm not anti god. I'm anti humans trying to understand god. He/She/It is beyond my understanding. If he/she/it makes everything the way it is, I do not understand his/her/its rational. I gave up trying to. I've made peace with just living a moral life, as much as I know how, (with godly ideas mixed in), and hoping that that will be enough. If I did my best, how can god fault me for that?

Maybe I didn't do his best...but he/she/it is god after all...how could I have been expected to?
If you think you're good enough to get to heaven because you've done the best you can, you're not going to get there. None of us can get there on our own merits. It's only through faith in Christ that we are made righteous enough.
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:06 PM
 
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Tell them you are Jewish or atheist, they won't think you're worth saving anymore but, they might move. That wouldn't be good. lol
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:10 PM
 
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From the statement of unbelief you probably are not saved , so take no offense as your room mate has given your name to God and is praying for your life , which is a good thing as God gives good gifts ... So let it go ....
Unless of course his roommate is praying to the wrong god(s) and he himself is the one who needs saving.
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:17 PM
 
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If you think you're good enough to get to heaven because you've done the best you can, you're not going to get there. None of us can get there on our own merits. It's only through faith in Christ that we are made righteous enough.
In other words god has decreed (through Vizio) that 2/3rds of the world's population is not good enough to reach heaven. HOW ABSOLUTELY POMPOUS AND SELF RIGHTEOUS OF YOU! This belief of Christians that their way is the only way is completely self serving and ugly.

According to Vizio the following great human beings are damned:

Ben Franklin
Abraham Lincoln
Mahatma Gandhi
Albert Einstein
Sigmund Freud
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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If you think you're good enough to get to heaven because you've done the best you can, you're not going to get there. None of us can get there on our own merits. It's only through faith in Christ that we are made righteous enough.
Wrong.

But you'll find out.

If you're paying attention at the time.
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Old 03-31-2013, 07:08 PM
 
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In other words god has decreed (through Vizio) that 2/3rds of the world's population is not good enough to reach heaven. HOW ABSOLUTELY POMPOUS AND SELF RIGHTEOUS OF YOU! This belief of Christians that their way is the only way is completely self serving and ugly.

According to Vizio the following great human beings are damned:

Ben Franklin
Abraham Lincoln
Mahatma Gandhi
Albert Einstein
Sigmund Freud
I'm only telling you what the Bible says, and Christianity has taught for 2000 years. I'm sorry if that offends you.
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