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Old 10-03-2007, 01:23 PM
 
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"I believe this because the bible says it"

How is that statement different from:

"I belive this because the koran tells me so".

"I believe this because the book of mormon tells me so".

"I believe this because the book of shadows tells me so".

I'm not trying to be glib, but don't you realize that if Rome had not converted to Christianity as the official religion of the empire, but to Hinduism instead we'd all be debating the role of Krishna or Veda or some other Avatar instead of the Judeo god?
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:25 PM
 
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Christianity would have survived no matter.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:40 PM
 
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Christianity would have survived no matter.
Agreed!

I believe the Bible because I believe in God, not vise-versa. People may think that we are just blindly following a book, and whatever it says we do, but belief in God comes first. I believe in God because of the complete, real evidence of His presence, not because "that's what I've been taught", "that's what's easiest", "that's what my friends believe", "that's what the Bible says", but because of there is enough proof for me to believe.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:54 PM
 
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You clearly don't understand.

The bible is true because god says it is.
God is true because the bible says he is.

A perfect circle of logic and reason!
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:57 PM
 
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You clearly don't understand.

The bible is true because god says it is.
God is true because the bible says he is.

A perfect circle of logic and reason!
The Bible isn't true because God says it is... the Bible is true because it is God's Word. God would exist even if the Bible didn't.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:59 PM
 
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The Bible isn't true because God says it is... the Bible is true because it is God's Word. God would exist even if the Bible didn't.
And you know it is God's Word how???
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:59 PM
 
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Why then is Christianity not the major religion in the Middle East and Asia? Are they not as smart as Westerners when it comes to realizing what is true? 1.3 billion people are Muslim and growing. They would answer me the same as you about their religion. I just don't get it. If everyone says their religion, their sacred text is true because of the proof and real evidence they see, the only conclusion is:

A. All religions are true and it's a matter of picking which one is right for you and your society

B. No religion is true and they are tools used to control a popluation and/or provide comfort
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:05 PM
 
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And you know it is God's Word how???
I know it is God's Word because it speaks to my heart, is relevant to daily living, and God's promises in it have proved themselves true to me. "Once I was bound, now I am Free!"
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:12 PM
 
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I know it is God's Word because it speaks to my heart, is relevant to daily living, and God's promises in it have proved themselves true to me. "Once I was bound, now I am Free!"
That's about as firm a basis as melted jello. Every believer of any faith could provide the same "evidence". What exactly would you call the relevance to daily living- the avoidance of clothing made of two different fabrics, avoiding shellfish, abandoning your family, turning the other cheek (particularly relevant if you are in the military)... just curious.
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:14 PM
 
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And you know it is God's Word how???
Christians have this unique ability to have "Faith" in God and His Word. Atheists don't understand this, kinda like we Christians don't understand how/why it is so difficult for you to not have faith

Do you have faith that the morning paper will be on the porch each morning? Do you have faith that your car will start each morning? Do you have faith that your family/friends will be safe throughout each day? Do you have faith that your employer will provide you with a paycheck every week? Just some silly questions, I know - but I'm just hoping to make a point.

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