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Old 09-20-2012, 10:00 AM
 
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Nothing exists without origin.
Who made up that rule?
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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Also, you seem to have overlooked post #86 ...
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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Why must there be an uncaused cause? Because everything needs one. Nothing exists without origin.
& how does an origin prove that it was created by a god, rather than caused by something else?
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:18 AM
 
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Why is the burden of proof on me to negate your opinion?
If you're claiming that god created the universe, the burden of proof is on you to back up that claim.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:21 AM
 
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That existence itself has a beginning is pure speculation. It may feel right, but so did geocentrism during much of mankind's history.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:24 AM
 
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If you're claiming that god created the universe, the burden of proof is on you to back up that claim.
And, equally daunting, in doing so you have a responsibility to provide and justify a cognitively meaningful definition of what is meant by 'god'.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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Will Science Someday Rule Out the Possibility of God?

Think it pretty much already has, combined with the facts that those that support the existence have no facts. Gods exist solely in the gaps of knowledge, and science is filling those gaps on a ever accelerating basis. When the gaps are filled, then god can exist only in the fantasies of people that cannot or will not accept reality. Oh wait......
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:53 AM
 
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Who made up that rule?
Can you name something that exists without one?
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:55 AM
 
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Will Science Someday Rule Out the Possibility of God?

Think it pretty much already has, combined with the facts that those that support the existence have no facts. Gods exist solely in the gaps of knowledge, and science is filling those gaps on a ever accelerating basis. When the gaps are filled, then god can exist only in the fantasies of people that cannot or will not accept reality. Oh wait......
No facts? Or no facts you choose to accept? It's amazing. You make a silly strawman statement, then run with it.

Science has no explanation for the origins of the universe...but you cling to some silly stupid notion of a big bang...and only push the question back to what happened before it.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:03 AM
 
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Who made up that rule?
God is not a life form or thing as we know it...somethings do exist without origin...Because we are earthlings who are used to the idea of seeds- growth - bloom and decay...we imagine that everything must have started from some sort of seed...or an "origin"...even in scripture it states that God has always been..with no beginning and no end....I wonder what some imagine the origin of the word eternity? Eternity...that means without end...who was the brilliant human who came across that CONCEPT... thousands of years before we even had a way of looking at eternity through devices made through science...wonder who the first person was who muttered to his girl friend..."I will love you FOR EVER?


Science is the slow and eternal dissection of God...going to take a long time this autopsy of faith- to find out what killed the all mighty in the minds of men...but is this thing dead or alive? No one knows- we think in terms of birth and death...cos we are biological....Which is one of God's cruel jokes- He makes himself eternal...and gives us an expiry date---what a prick.
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