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Old 12-19-2012, 08:54 PM
 
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God apparently intervened a lot in the OT.

I guess Jesus had a message to spread.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:57 PM
 
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God apparently intervened a lot in the OT.

I guess Jesus had a message to spread.
But, why let the "wise men" know? If not for them, Herod wouldn't have known. If Herod wouldn't have known, a bunch of little boys would have still been alive. Jesus, still gets to do his mission.....just without the slaughter of the innocent.
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:10 AM
 
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Why didn't God just create the universe right the first time, so he wouldn't have to fine tune so many things later with one "plan" or another? I guess he must have made a lot of other mistakes in the original creation, too. Why don't you ever admit to any of those? How do you know which things God made that are still with us, that were mistakes and will have to be fixed, while you call them "God's Indisputable Wonders", and bet your life that you are right? Why does God have to create and breathe life into all those poor children, only to brutally murder them later on when he realizes all the stupid mistakes He made in his creation. Maybe God sent Adam Lanza to brutally murder His children for him, to cover up his screwups.

This is a serious question. I'd like an answer. If God was perfect, how come the original world he created isn't, and requires a continuing "plan"?
Or, after Adam and Eve, he could've hit the "RESET" button and tried again. But, then again, he wouldn't have gotten the fun of toying with us, his minions. Where's the fun, unless you can drown the entire world now and then and throw people in a lake of fire?
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:16 AM
 
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No, just not have let any of those "wise men" know, that's all. If those dudes hadn't gotten word, Herod probably wouldn't have either and then those kids, that were slaughtered, would have lived longer. We gotta think outside the box.
Good point. Ban wise men.
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Old 12-20-2012, 05:44 AM
 
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But, why let the "wise men" know? If not for them, Herod wouldn't have known. If Herod wouldn't have known, a bunch of little boys would have still been alive. Jesus, still gets to do his mission.....just without the slaughter of the innocent.
But the backdrop of the slaughter is so much more dramatic. And god was planning to write the coventry carol, which is both beautiful and tragic. If all those babies weren't slaughtered it would just be beautiful, and you can't have that, can you?
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:14 AM
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Yeah you'd think he could have just had baby Jesus brutally murdered so he could forgive the world and be done with it..
Or god could have just done the forgiveness part without the brutal execution, but that would have made too much sense.
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:22 AM
 
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But the backdrop of the slaughter is so much more dramatic. And god was planning to write the coventry carol, which is both beautiful and tragic. If all those babies weren't slaughtered it would just be beautiful, and you can't have that, can you?
All tyrants have to use brutality to get their adherents to adhere....and i've come to understand that it's just the way a god's gotta do business. It's a little messy, but with psychopaths the ends always justify the means.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:52 PM
 
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All tyrants have to use brutality to get their adherents to adhere....and i've come to understand that it's just the way a god's gotta do business. It's a little messy, but with psychopaths the ends always justify the means.
He loves you, he really loves you, but he has to threaten you with a brutal death and eternal torment foryour own good, you understand? If he buys you flowers afterwards it will all be fine, won't it? After all, you were asking for it by misbehaving.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:54 PM
 
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This will be a fun one to watch. My answer. Only God knows. Its not revealed in the Bible, and I can't claim to speak for God if I don't know why?
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:58 PM
 
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He loves you, he really loves you, but he has to threaten you with a brutal death and eternal torment foryour own good, you understand? If he buys you flowers afterwards it will all be fine, won't it? After all, you were asking for it by misbehaving.
But, he always says he's gonna treat me right, and then when I slip up a little.....BAM! he knocks me down again. And he keeps saying it's my fault and that I keep bringing this on to me, myself. Maybe, it was me and that over revealing tunic I wore the other day. Why won't I learn that daddy knows best!
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