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"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Good job removing that from context.
By the way:
Exodus 31:15 For six days work is to be done, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death.
Exodus 31:15 For six days work is to be done, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death.
I'm amazed at how many people fail to understand this. I had a conversation with my sister-in-law once about her and my husband's uncle. For many years, he was in a relationship with another man. A few years back, he came to believe that this relationship was sinful and broke it off. He has supposedly been celibate for quite some time now. In referring to him, my sister-in-law said, "Uncle Joe used to be gay." It didn't matter what I said. There was no convincing her that Uncle Joe is still gay.
For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. Leviticus 20:9.
Killed any kids lately?
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Originally Posted by Rider's Pantheon
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
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Originally Posted by Fiyero
Good job removing that from context.
By the way:
Exodus 31:15 For six days work is to be done, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death.
Clearly no one can be a Christian.
No...What has the Jewish Law have to do with being a Christian?
See this is what makes me shake my head.
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Originally Posted by jjrose
The verse you quoted said that homosexuals won't get into heaven. I am a homosexual whether I am having sex or not.
Right...and an alcoholic is still an alcoholic even tho they have not had a drink in years. It's the being a drunk that is the sin, not being an alcoholic. They are good in God's sight, as are you, as long they don't do what is displeasing to God.
If a heterosexual is guilty of fornication just for fantasizing about it, isn't a homosexual guilty of sodomy just for being attracted to it?
Point taken. But that's probably because in Biblical times there wasn't as much nuance as that. Behavior implied orientation and it was all seen as depraved. I am skeptical that some guy 3,000 years ago who admitted being attracted to other men (or to his goats, or whatever) wouldn't be stoned simply because he hadn't acted on it. He'd be seen as unclean, depraved, and a threat to the community for even entertaining such horrific thoughts.
As a practical matter, you are asking gay persons to be asexual for life. This is something that Exodus International even figured out is both unworkable and harmful to people.
I totally agree. Where we probably disagree is on whether said denial is ennobling and positive.
We ask pedophiles to be celibate, right? Is that wrong to do? Is it harmful?
Honestly....i don't care what you do in your home with a consenting adult....but sex outside of marriage is sin....if you actively engage in a lifestyle of it, I question your commitment to Christ.
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
It never fails to amuse me how you people ignore the other old testament laws such as
Deuteronomy 22:13-22
If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her ... and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate.... But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the ***** in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
At a large, Episcopal church in Chattanooga, two men recently had something that resembled a marriage ceremony. My friend went and said that he had to park two blocks away because of the crowd.
Six miles, across town at a large Baptist church, the minister said in all three of the Sunday morning services; if you are gay, don't even think of trying to join this church.
The beat goes on!
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