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Nice ploy. Can't come up with an argument so just demonize your opponent. Perhaps you should research your secret sacred circle, and the true occult esoteric meaning behind it, or maybe you are quite aware already.
You know Hiram, it's real easy to sit there and talk about something of which you know nothing about. As for the sacred circle thread that I started, everyone who comes there is treated with respect regardless of what your religion or your belief may be, everyone is equal, it's called respect.
As for Freemasonry, which you know nothing about, here is a list of very prominent freemasons. W.W. Barnes, professor of church history at Southwestern Seminary. Edward Bass, first Protestant Episcopal Bishop of Massachusetts. Robert E. B. Baylor, founder of Baylor University, Texas first Baptist College. Major General Charles E. Brown Jr., served as U.S. Army chief of chaplains. Lansing Burroughs, president of the Southern Baptist convention, and pastor of eight Southern Baptist churches. Father Francisco Calvo, Catholic priests who started Freemasonry in Costa Rica. Carlton Chase, first dedicated Bishop to the Episcopal diocese of New Hampshire. Montague Graham Clark Jr., Presbyterian minister and president of the school of the Ozarks. W. T. Conner, taught theology at Southwestern University. Geoffrey Fisher, English churchmen, the 99th Archbishop of Canterbury. Frederick William Hamilton, Unitarian minister and president of Tufts College. Herschel Harold Hobbs, an ordained Southern Baptist minister for 69 years. Reverend Jesse Jackson, Baptist minister, American civil rights leader and politician. J. B. Lawrence, vice president of the Southern Baptist convention and secretary-treasurer of the home Mission Board for 30 years. Daniel L. Marsh, clergymen and educator, president of Boston University, chancellor of Boston University. Peter Marshall, Presbyterian pastor of churches in Georgia and Washington, DC, chaplain of the U.S. Senate. Abner V. McCall, president, chancellor and president emeritus of Baylor University in Texas, he served as a first vice president of the Southern Baptist convention. Archibald Mclellan, editor in chief, The Christian Science Monitor. Reverend Norman Vincent Peale, American cleric, founder of "Guidepost".
These are just a few of the well-known religious personalities that are members of the fraternity of freemasons.
I do not think they are devil worshipers or worshipers of Satan or Lucifer.
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When I was married to a Lutheran (and his family) I recall their hatred of Masons and many other fraternal organizations and how they believed it was all Satanistic, yada yada yada. And yet I knew (and know) some members of Masons and my first high school "love" was in DeMolay. There is nothing evil at all in those organizations...but Christians are, as usual, fearful of what they do not know or understand or what might threaten what they believe is true. It's really sad in a way, that they are so quick to demonize and condemn people whom they do not know.
Wiccans are not devil worshipers. They worship Nature and the natural world...at least that's as close as I can explain it. There are always a few nuts in every religion or organization, including Christianity, but as PTsum says, it is best to ignore the irrational rants.
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From what I've read, the first five presidents of the Mormon church were Masons.
In those years membership in Masonry was widespread throughout society.
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