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Old 12-13-2014, 02:28 AM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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A lot of people applaud this bill, but what would they think if a Muslim baker were to refuse service to a Christian? There would be a nationwide uproar if such a thing happened. This bill is just a way to discriminate against others and hopefully it will quickly backfire.
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Old 12-13-2014, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Sitting beside Walden Pond
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A lot of people applaud this bill, but what would they think if a Muslim baker were to refuse service to a Christian?
Who knows?

Like all laws, it would depend on how a court would apply the law to a case like this.

If a court reached a decision that went against the common sense of many people, as happened in the New Mexico case, many people would try to change the law.

Welcome to America.
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Old 12-13-2014, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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No, I can't think of any case where it would be acceptable to deny service to a black person. Even if a black person showed up at a KKK rally, they should be allowed to purchase a burger at the snack bar.
So why is it OK to discriminate against LGBT people when if you replaced that term with "black" in any of these scenarios, it would not be acceptable?
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Old 12-13-2014, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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A lot of people applaud this bill, but what would they think if a Muslim baker were to refuse service to a Christian? There would be a nationwide uproar if such a thing happened. This bill is just a way to discriminate against others and hopefully it will quickly backfire.
No minority faith would ever take advantage of this bill. They couldn't. There would be FAR too much backlash.
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Old 12-13-2014, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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No minority faith would ever take advantage of this bill. They couldn't. There would be FAR too much backlash.
Agreed. Seems designed to allow the Christian majority to exercise their Michigan-given right to discriminate.

What a bunch of knobs.
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Old 12-13-2014, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Sitting beside Walden Pond
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So why is it OK to discriminate against LGBT people when if you replaced that term with "black" in any of these scenarios, it would not be acceptable?
I have no idea. Who said it was OK?
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Old 12-13-2014, 09:59 AM
 
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Agreed. Seems designed to allow the Christian majority to exercise their Michigan-given right to discriminate.

What a bunch of knobs.
Or maybe they want to exercise their God-given freedom of religion.


Why do you feel it's appropriate to allow someone to force them to violate their consciences?
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Old 12-13-2014, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Call me kooky, but I thought we already had religious freedom in this country.

We don't need another law. We need to elect representatives who adhere to the constitution.

And we sure as bleep don't need the "religion police" conducting investigations to determine if our religious convictions are "sincerely-held.
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Old 12-13-2014, 10:31 AM
 
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Or maybe they want to exercise their God-given freedom of religion.


Why do you feel it's appropriate to allow someone to force them to violate their consciences?
Again it is only an owner of the business that has those rights. Employees do not unless they can afford to lose their jobs.
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Old 12-13-2014, 10:39 AM
 
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Again it is only an owner of the business that has those rights. Employees do not unless they can afford to lose their jobs.
I have no problem with that. I have not suggested otherwise. If you cannot, in good conscience, work somewhere that sells a product you disagree with you need to get a different job.

I have personally done that myself. I have declined a 2nd interview in a company after finding out what they made.
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