Why did God allow the Holocaust to happen?

[erasure]

Originally Posted by Nozzferrahhtoo

Making up your own definitions is not going to change the point I made. Atheism is just the lack of belief in gods. It says nothing whatsoever about enforcing that belief at a political or social level. When you do that you are not talking about atheism any more, you are talking about a political idealogy.

Errr no, these are not MY definitions, these are definitions common in ENGLISH LANGUAGE, which is your native I assume, therefore deal with it))))

And states that have done it have done it in order to establish their own state religion, which is also nothing to do with atheism.

Again, per original definition "religion" has anything and everything to do with God ( gods); the kind of meaning YOU are trying to ascribe to the word "religion" is secondary.

The attempts to declare a dead man an "eternal leader" who is partially reincarnated in his own son, as we see in North Korea, is a state religion and the opposite of atheism.

No, it does not oppose the atheism. The reason such states remove belief in God ( gods) and become atheist at the first place, is because the government wants to remove "the bigger picture" - i.e. belief in afterlife, heaven and hell, the "ultimate justice" and the rest, since this would make the "dear leader" *subordinate* to the higher being/beings and that's a no-no thing in totalitarian states N. Koren style.

And, one notes, not altogether dissimilar to the claims of Christianity (they are only one short of a trinity, and their god impregnated an underage virgin in order to give birth to itself). While in Russia the Tzars were always considered something more than human, they had their own version of miracles, and their owe version of an inquisition. Again, nothing even remotely related to atheism.

Wrong again. Tzarist Russia was deeply religious state, where Christianity was rigorously promoted by church and nobility hand in hand, since religion ( Christianity in this case) was affirming the right of tzars ( and nobility) to the throne. That's the ABCs of conservatism just in case you don't know it))))

[Nozzferrahhtoo]

Originally Posted by erasure

Errr no, these are not MY definitions, these are definitions common in ENGLISH LANGUAGE, which is your native I assume, therefore deal with it))))

I do not have to "deal with" definitions you have merely invented. Not only did you simply cherry pick one definition, you declared it to be the "original" one. All done without citation or support of any kind. So your definitions that you merely invent do not dictate anything, therefore deal with it.

Once again, attacking or even banning religion in an attempt to implement a state religion, or political ideology is NOT "atheism". No amount of assert-repeat redefinition of terms is going to make it so, therefore deal with it.

Originally Posted by erasure

Wrong again.

Nice of you to declare me wrong then repeat essentially what I actually said and agree with it. Do you often disagree with people by entirely agreeing with them? You write it was a "deeply religious state" which is essentially EXACTLY what I wrote when I said "the Tzars were always considered something more than human, they had their own version of miracles, and their owe version of an inquisition. Again, nothing even remotely related to atheism."

You are so falling over yourself to look like you are disagreeing with me, that you are happily making my points for me. Keep up the good work.