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Old 04-21-2015, 10:00 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Very interesting find, as scientists agree that these tools were not made by species categorized as humans, but the forebearers or proto humans.

They are not yet connecting it to 3.2 million year-old Australopithecus afarensis remains better known as Lucy, but looking for further evidence.

Science keeps pushing back on the boundaries of the common ancestor of modern apes and humans. Both chimps and crows are known to use tools, but actually make them has always being defined as a hallmark of being human. That concept may have to change.

In pretty sure the Adam/Eve concept came many years later

World’s oldest stone tools discovered in Kenya

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Old 04-21-2015, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I got a "not found" when I clicked the link. Best double-check it.
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Old 04-21-2015, 10:41 AM
 
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I got a "not found" when I clicked the link. Best double-check it.
Should work now.
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Old 04-21-2015, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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This time I got:

504 Gateway Time-out

The server didn't respond in time.

Maybe it's my connection.
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Old 04-21-2015, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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This time I got:

504 Gateway Time-out

The server didn't respond in time.

Maybe it's my connection.
Possibility, the link worked for me
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Old 04-21-2015, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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4th attempt was the charm.
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Old 04-21-2015, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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4th attempt was the charm.


Good, it is an interesting article.
Quite a few creature seem to have developed the use of tools.
Humans are not the only creatures with intelligence.
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Old 04-21-2015, 06:44 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Good, it is an interesting article.
Quite a few creature seem to have developed the use of tools.
Humans are not the only creatures with intelligence.
Even creatures which do not make tools can be intelligent.

What I think in terms of human beings, intelligence and ability to fashion tools from the environment is that the human form is a perfect form (tool) for the job. Well designed even.
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Old 04-21-2015, 06:55 PM
 
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Think about it, how many of us have ever created a tool? We use tools daily and I'm using one now but I didn't create it that's for sure. So, if creating a tool is the hallmark of being human than the vast majority of humanity is something other than human.

There is going to be push back from people who say they created tools but I doubt it; the best thing I can expect is they combined tools to create a derivative of a pre-existing tool but did not create a tool otherwise they can patent it and be profitable. So, unless you have patented something your push back is not valid.
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Old 04-21-2015, 07:25 PM
 
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Very interesting find, as scientists agree that these tools were not made by species categorized as humans, but the forebearers or proto humans.

They are not yet connecting it to 3.2 million year-old Australopithecus afarensis remains better known as Lucy, but looking for further evidence.

Science keeps pushing back on the boundaries of the common ancestor of modern apes and humans. Both chimps and crows are known to use tools, but actually make them has always being defined as a hallmark of being human. That concept may have to change.

In pretty sure the Adam/Eve concept came many years later

World’s oldest stone tools discovered in Kenya
it is cool to see how many animals do use tools. the question is how fast do they upgrade.
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