what if the Christian Anti-Christ is the awaited Jewish Messiah?...
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It's not the Jewish Messiah. The anti-Christ is alive and well among us even one. "He" appears as an angel of light and purposes hateful, judgmental tactics on people, and insists on telling them how to live.
The Messiah is also 'alive and well in all of us'.
The Messiah is also 'alive and well in all of us'.
The bolded reminds me of organised religions.
The bolded is exactly the point. It is in the midst of "godly" religion that the anti-Christ makes his appearance. And the ones being duped are the ones who claim they practice that ugliness in the name of their god.
It is in the midst of "godly" religion that the anti-Christ makes his appearance. And the ones being duped are the ones who claim they practice that ugliness in the name of their god.
here is the easy way to identify
hate = not of God
peace, loving kindness = of God
ye shall know them by their works
judge not lest ye be judged
which is not just a platitude; it is saying what you wish on another, will return upon your head
that is Universal Law
Last edited by Tzaphkiel; 06-15-2015 at 12:00 PM..
this post brings up a good point
since JC is all about loving kindness, then the "anti-JC" is hate wherever it appears
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Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel
here is the easy way to identify
hate = not of God
peace, loving kindness = of God
ye shall know them by their works
judge not lest ye be judged
which is not just a platitude; it is saying what you wish on another, will return upon your head
that is Universal Law
Amen! Hate, judgment, condemnation, discrimination, shunning, and other unloving actions are NEVER of God. They are always of human origin. We are NOT God's enforcers. Love your enemies is NOT a mere platitude.
And his job is to defeat a heretical religion that has gotten out of control and has deceived multitudes of people throughout history?...Seeing as how the Christians were just a TO Jewish movement initially until Paul got a hold on it...This is just a thought based on another poster in another thread stating that the Moshiach that the Jews were waiting for is descriptive of the Anti-Christ...
I find that to be an interesting and plausible scenario. I always found it odd that the same deity that chose the Hebrews as the chosen people would later send a portion of his own spirit disguised as a human to blatantly disregard and disavow the same dogma and moral code that he had created and required to be implemented. The Jesus as son of god, savior of all humanity blood sacrifice so god can forgive nonsense is utterly ridiculous and completely implausible.
The bolded is exactly the point. It is in the midst of "godly" religion that the anti-Christ makes his appearance. And the ones being duped are the ones who claim they practice that ugliness in the name of their god.
Which also might be the case with the messiah individual personality which some hope in...the 'hateful judgmental tactics on people, and insistence on telling them how to live' - such things might well be interpreted in relation to that messiah and how he (an individual) will proceed with 'fixing the world'.
I don't see how it would possible for anyone to achieve without some sort of iron fist involved...
The bolded is exactly the point. It is in the midst of "godly" religion that the anti-Christ makes his appearance. And the ones being duped are the ones who claim they practice that ugliness in the name of their god.
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Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel
here is the easy way to identify
hate = not of God
peace, loving kindness = of God
ye shall know them by their works
judge not lest ye be judged
which is not just a platitude; it is saying what you wish on another, will return upon your head
that is Universal Law
Thus it is not really about some individual messiah but an effort by one and all to express such, regardless of what 'position of belief or non belief' once chooses to hold.
THAT will go a long way in assisting such transformation of the world.
However some could argue that those with the gold who make the rules do not want it that way.
I find that to be an interesting and plausible scenario. I always found it odd that the same deity that chose the Hebrews as the chosen people would later send a portion of his own spirit disguised as a human to blatantly disregard and disavow the same dogma and moral code that he had created and required to be implemented. The Jesus as son of god, savior of all humanity blood sacrifice so god can forgive nonsense is utterly ridiculous and completely implausible.
Not really at all. The problem with the law of the Hebrews is that it way overextended its claim as mouthpiece of G()D.
Jesus simplified things, and showed the error of the way of the law and those under the law.
For many it was (and still is) a matter of 'the LAW is my shepherd' whole a few understand it better the LORD is my shepherd.
Before the middle-man of the law, those who would, had direct access to The LORD.
1: Love your idea of G()D with your whole being. (For this is love for self as well)
2: Love others as you Love yourself (For this is Love for your idea of G()D as well)
In doing these 'two' things, one fulfills the whole law.
Which also might be the case with the messiah individual personality which some hope in...the 'hateful judgmental tactics on people, and insistence on telling them how to live' - such things might well be interpreted in relation to that messiah and how he (an individual) will proceed with 'fixing the world'.
I don't see how it would possible for anyone to achieve without some sort of iron fist involved...
Their iron fist is a "perfect" book, be it the Pentateuch, the whole Christian Bible, the Koran, or whatever. Most religious cruelty comes from written "instructions." It's an irrefutable source of self-righteousness.
I did enjoy your line about "G()d evolves with us." Would to God more understood that.
I find that to be an interesting and plausible scenario. I always found it odd that the same deity that chose the Hebrews as the chosen people would later send a portion of his own spirit disguised as a human to blatantly disregard and disavow the same dogma and moral code that he had created and required to be implemented. The Jesus as son of god, savior of all humanity blood sacrifice so god can forgive nonsense is utterly ridiculous and completely implausible.
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Originally Posted by Wardendresden
Their iron fist is a "perfect" book, be it the Pentateuch, the whole Christian Bible, the Koran, or whatever. Most religious cruelty comes from written "instructions." It's an irrefutable source of self-righteousness.
I did enjoy your line about "G()d evolves with us." Would to God more understood that.
I don't think it is religion which is the iron fist, although of course it is involved...
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