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Old 09-16-2015, 03:33 PM
 
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So let's apply this to your God. Unless you can come up with a reasonable explanation for how God got here the logical assumption would be that something caused/created it.

See how illogical you sound!
He is the uncaused cause. Do you not comprehend that you MUST have an uncaused cause? That there had to be SOMETHING that was not caused that started it all?
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Old 09-16-2015, 03:33 PM
 
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I call it a "common design". Nothing wrong with God liking the base template he used and then making more using it.

No doubt a nod to your go-to guy for all-things evolution/creation, the aptly-named Slick whose website contains his theory of a common designer i.e., God

You should give credit where credit is due.
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Old 09-16-2015, 03:34 PM
 
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No doubt a nod to your go-to guy for all-things evolution, the aptly-named Slick whose website contains his theory of a common designer.
I'm sorry...I really have not read his opinions on evolution. You seem to enjoy it though. You refer to his ideas a lot.
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Old 09-16-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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I'm sorry...I really have not read his opinions on evolution.
Have you read his opinions on a common Designer? Are you going to tell us that "your" term "common design" and your guru's term "common Designer" is just some wild and crazy coincidence?

Lol.... go ahead. I quit expecting honesty from fundamentalists years ago.
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Old 09-16-2015, 03:46 PM
 
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Have you read his opinions on a common Designer? Are you going to tell us that your term "common design" and your guru's term "common Designer" is just some wild and crazy coincidence?

Lol.... go ahead. I quit expecting honesty from fundamentalists years ago.
It's not that crazy of a theory. Do you honestly think that he was the one that came up with it and no one else has ever thought of it?
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Old 09-16-2015, 03:57 PM
 
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It's not that crazy of a theory. Do you honestly think that he was the one that came up with it and no one else has ever thought of it?
"I call it a common design." Lol....you and everyone else who believes that theory. Which would be large number of fundamentalists.
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Old 09-16-2015, 04:02 PM
 
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He is the uncaused cause. Do you not comprehend that you MUST have an uncaused cause? That there had to be SOMETHING that was not caused that started it all?

Why must there be a uncaused cause and why would it be your God. Also how does he make matter out of nothing as would not that matter have to come from someplace? And all this beside the point of the thread as the origin of life does not need the origin of matter solved to be studied.
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Old 09-16-2015, 04:32 PM
 
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He is the uncaused cause. Do you not comprehend that you MUST have an uncaused cause? That there had to be SOMETHING that was not caused that started it all?
Similarly:

Do you not comprehend that ALL things MUST be supported, or else they will fall? We know this from experience. Everything we observe will fall if it's not supported by something. Well, have you ever wondered what is holding up the earth? What keeps the ground under our feet from falling? Clearly, SOMETHING is holding up the earth and keeping it from falling!

God is the unsupported supporter. He is what keeps the earth from falling. You're not allowed to ask "ok, well then what is supporting God?", since God is, by definition, the unsupported supporter.
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Old 09-16-2015, 05:35 PM
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He is the uncaused cause. Do you not comprehend that you MUST have an uncaused cause? That there had to be SOMETHING that was not caused that started it all?
Yeah! Do you not comprehend that I say it is matter/energy.
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Old 09-16-2015, 06:55 PM
 
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I see most creationists are still thinking their creation myth and evolution are talking about the same thing.

Evolution is a well founded theory of the development of species.

Creation is an unproven hypothesis (I'm being kind by calling it even that) of how the universe started.
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