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Old 09-22-2015, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Yeah, it's sooooo much more comforting (and sensible) to believe that your kids are suffering the righteous wrath of a supernatural being.
So you agree atheism is illogical?
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Old 09-22-2015, 02:50 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Cupper, according to your 10 Commandments, why do you attack my character by accusing me of smoking dope or eating psychedelic mushrooms for how I believe?
I was speculating, as the things you have said are so, shall we say, "visionary".

By the way, I don't subscribe to any Ten Commandments. I, instead, I would suggest you only need 2. They pretty well covered all.

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Old 09-22-2015, 02:54 PM
 
Location: USA
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So you agree atheism is illogical?
It's pretty clear that my post was intended as sarcasm, Sheldon Cooper.
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Old 09-22-2015, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Venus
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I was speculating, as the things you have said are so, shall we say, "visionary".

By the way, I don't subscribe to any Ten Commandments. I, instead, I would suggest you only need 2. They pretty well covered all.

Similar to the last part of the Wiccan Rede:





To me, that is only ONE Commandment.



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Old 09-22-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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It's pretty clear that my post was intended as sarcasm, Sheldon Cooper.
Cop out...
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Old 09-22-2015, 05:14 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Epicurus was wrong.

God created evil and controls it.
He is able and willing as the need arises.
He is both able and willing as the need arises.
So one should call Him God.

Isa_45:7 Former of light and Creator of darkness,
Maker of good and Creator of evil.
I, Yahweh Elohim, made all of these things."

God brings about evil that good will come.
So 'omnipotence' has led to a sort of bemused and fallible (not to mention fickle) only too human tyranny. As Epicurus rightly implied, nothing special.
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Old 09-22-2015, 05:20 PM
 
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lmao, getting a real job interferes with my virtual reality.

we don't know what god is. We can safely assume that if we have emotions the universe has more of them. Anything less is just nonsense. Kinda like literal babble, I mean bible is.
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Old 09-22-2015, 05:21 PM
 
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Let me share a revelation I had during my time on this planet.

I was brought up a Christian. My mother was a firm believer and took me to church every week without fault. I used to be as firm in my beliefs as her. I prayed and prayed and prayed.

One day my best friend got leukemia. He was a good kid. His parents were good people who sent to church and prayed.

I prayed even more. I got my parents to pray with me, my grandparents, my classmates. We prayed our asses off.

It didn't work. 8 months later I attended his funeral. When I asked the pastor why God allowed it, he said to me that "God worked in mysterious ways" and that Lucas "Had been called to sit next to Jesus".

Strike one. I thought Jesus was an egomaniac.

Sometimes later, Luke's parents lost their business. Then they separated. Then Luke's father got in an accident.
As time went by, I saw more and more good people have all the rotten luck in the world. Bad people got rich, got married, had kids and nothing happened to them.
I prayed and prayed and prayed. It did nothing. Bad luck kept coming to good people.

So I had a revelation. God is either a real dirtbag, seeing his people squirm and enjoying it. Or impotent to stop even the smallest evil.
Not really the type of guy I want to have as a friend.
My conclusion: there is no god. And if there is a god, I don't want anything to do with him.

Since that day, my life has been much easier.
Congratulations, you also chose to spend eternity begging to be let out of hades, good luck with it all.
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Old 09-22-2015, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Congratulations, you also chose to spend eternity begging to be let out of hades, good luck with it all.
What good does a response like that do?
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Old 09-22-2015, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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What good does a response like that do?
None.

Which is also the correct answer to "What good is fundamentalism?"
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