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Old 09-24-2015, 12:50 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Eusebius View Post
We, being human, cannot assure good will come of our evil. Only God can.

Okay, I won't.



Of course the creator can do whatever He wants. It's His creation after all. But He does all things in love with a view to GOOD being the result of all His actions.
I believe you are overreacting. Since when has God ruled you with an iron fist?
The Christian God says he will torture me with fire for eternity for not obeying. I'd say that's ruling with an iron fist. The Islamic God says pretty much the same thing.
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Old 09-24-2015, 12:51 PM
 
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The Christian God says he will torture me with fire for eternity for not obeying. I'd say that's ruling with an iron fist. I'm pretty sure the Islamic God says pretty much the same thing.
On the other hand, he offers you forgiveness and an eternity in heaven with him if you repent and accept his gift of forgiveness.
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:00 PM
 
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On the other hand, he offers you forgiveness and an eternity in heaven with him if you repent and accept his gift of forgiveness.
Wow, such an appealing offer! I can't wait to spend eternity in an abusive cosmic relationship, with no possibility of escape.
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:03 PM
 
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Wow, such an appealing offer! I can't wait to spend eternity in an abusive cosmic relationship, with no possibility of escape.
If you don't repent of your sins and trust Christ, you will do so.
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:05 PM
 
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If you don't repent of your sins and trust Christ, you will do so.
Here it is folks. Right from the horse's mouth.
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:08 PM
 
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Here it is folks. Right from the horse's mouth.
OK? Again....if you want to be with God in Heaven, you can. It's not a pleasant thing to think about. In my experience, you seem like a likable person. But you're just like the rest of us, in that you deserve to go to hell unless you have a mediator between you and God.
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:14 PM
 
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The Christian God says he will torture me with fire for eternity for not obeying. I'd say that's ruling with an iron fist. The Islamic God says pretty much the same thing.
No, in fact He never said that in all the bible. You may have heard that from a pulpit but I assure you, it is not in the Bible.
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:18 PM
 
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OK? Again....if you want to be with God in Heaven, you can. It's not a pleasant thing to think about. In my experience, you seem like a likable person. But you're just like the rest of us, in that you deserve to go to hell unless you have a mediator between you and God.
Ladies and germs, this is what fundamentalism does to a person's brain.
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:21 PM
 
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OK? Again....if you want to be with God in Heaven, you can. It's not a pleasant thing to think about. In my experience, you seem like a likable person. But you're just like the rest of us, in that you deserve to go to hell unless you have a mediator between you and God.
^Here it is again.

In other words "Do what I say or I will torture you."

This is the morality central to conservative Christianity. It's authoritarianism plain and simple. It's the might makes right morality they want to force on the entire nation via the political process.

If there are any young people in the audience, be aware: these people exist and are active in politics.

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Old 09-24-2015, 01:21 PM
 
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Ladies and germs, this is what fundamentalism does to a person's brain.
That I'm not perfect and need a savior? We all know that you seem to believe you are quite perfect.
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