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So we have either seen the movie or read the book. If not then I'm sure that most of you get the gist of it. Jesus was just human & was like everyone else, not a deity just a hippie teaching peace & love who had children & their blood line lives on today.
I had never seen the movie until the other night read the book many years ago.
This isn't about if you believe the hype or not here, this is about IF you had 100% proof that Jesus was just one of us would you tell everyone? Would it be the right then to do in terms of those who believe in him as the son of God? Millions of people believe in him & Christianity as a whole. Many NEED to believe in him & some need to believe because the belief in him helps them though out their lives. Do you feel that taking away their faith would benefit them in any way? Would the world be a better place without Christianity? I thought this to be an interesting question. Would you keep it to yourself OR tell everyone?
I'm pretty confident that proof wouldn't matter to a lot of believers as the ONLY evidence for Jesus suggests he was just a man already. And yet people still believe it because they aren't looking for the truth, they are looking for a way to cope with existentialist issues, which they never developed (for various reasons).
I also disagree that anybody needs to believe in him as a deity, or any deity for that matter.
So yes, of course I would share information if I came across it. But no, it wouldn't likely change much, as it would just lead to different conjecture and non-falsifiable proclamations which people would adopt.
There was another, less well known novel (unfortunately the name eludes me) that I read a few years ago, in which someone found ancient documents written by Jesus himself proving that he did not claim divinity but was just a televangelist-like bilker of the masses. The protagonist in the book is an atheist who goes through an extended game of cat-and-mouse with ecclesiastical authorities who want to get to the document and destroy it before he does.
Ultimately he prevails but decides to destroy the proof himself because he's convinced that the world can't handle the truth, much as he would like his point of view to be vindicated.
It is probably what I would do in the protagonist's situation. I believe that all the evidence (or lack thereof) points to the truth already, and that humanity will embrace it organically, as it is able to. We are not yet at childhood's end as a species. In time we will get there.
This isn't about if you believe the hype or not here, this is about IF you had 100% proof that Jesus was just one of us would you tell everyone? Would it be the right then to do in terms of those who believe in him as the son of God? Millions of people believe in him & Christianity as a whole. Many NEED to believe in him & some need to believe because the belief in him helps them though out their lives. Do you feel that taking away their faith would benefit them in any way? Would the world be a better place without Christianity? I thought this to be an interesting question. Would you keep it to yourself OR tell everyone?
I understand the gist of the question and there is an element of magical thinking associated with Jesus, but if He was NOT just one of us, there would be no point to anything He did. How does a God doing what He did accomplish anything?? Of course, a God could do what He did and anything else you might think of. That a MAN did those things, now THAT is miraculous and noteworthy and inspirational. He truly IS the first-born of all of us and we are to follow as best we can. He said we are gods and adopted as children of God in agape love. He showed us that what He did CAN be done by us. If not, what is the point of it all???
So we have either seen the movie or read the book. If not then I'm sure that most of you get the gist of it. Jesus was just human & was like everyone else, not a deity just a hippie teaching peace & love who had children & their blood line lives on today.
I had never seen the movie until the other night read the book many years ago.
This isn't about if you believe the hype or not here, this is about IF you had 100% proof that Jesus was just one of us would you tell everyone? Would it be the right then to do in terms of those who believe in him as the son of God? Millions of people believe in him & Christianity as a whole. Many NEED to believe in him & some need to believe because the belief in him helps them though out their lives. Do you feel that taking away their faith would benefit them in any way? Would the world be a better place without Christianity? I thought this to be an interesting question. Would you keep it to yourself OR tell everyone?
I would say the world would be a better place providing the major competitor was simultaneously eliminated but at the same time I would say that some people would be totally lost. I know of a few people who do appear to benefit from their belief. They are not fundamentalists or extremists!
Still the book and the movie was fiction , but people who do not believe in God think it is true
Nonsense. I know that it was fiction. I'm not claiming it is true and neither is anyone else here.
Well ... there are some in this world who claim the legend the work of fiction describes is true ... that the so-called "holy grail" was really Mary, the wife of Jesus, the source of Jesus' lineage in Europe. But I doubt that anyone here is among those. It is interesting speculation but there is not enough evidence to substantiate it.
Personally I don't even believe Jesus was an historical figure -- in my view he was either a complete fiction or a composite character embellished by the authors of the gospels. So it would be in inherently impossible for me to believe an alternate storyline for a fictional character. I don't even believe the orthodox accepted storyline.
So if you want to disagree with people here, get clear on what their belief claims actually ARE.
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