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Old 04-29-2008, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Believers of hell are the ones who fear it.
Actually they are the only ones that fear it...
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Old 04-29-2008, 12:48 PM
 
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Oh, please - next you will try to convince me that atomic particles exist.
Nope. Can't see 'em. Not there.

You see, I am a freethinker so please excuse my stupidity.
i think you believe in air , you dont see,.. it but you just know its their same goes for the spirit of god in man
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:36 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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Believers of hell are the ones who fear it.
Not true, I believe hell is real, but I don't fear it because I know I'll be in Heaven because Jesus is my Savior
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:37 PM
 
Location: USA
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To be honest, quite often God's answer to me is,

SHUT UP AND LISTEN !

Shut up and listen to what?
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:40 PM
 
Location: USA
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There are also a lot of toxic parents. The God of the Bible is one.

He is like a father who tells his children he is going away. he is leaving them in the hands of neighbours. He will let them call him, but he will always remain silent at the other end of the phone and say nothing. He will leave a letter for them to read, which may be very hard to understand. The neighbours can interpret the letter for them. Sometimes the neighbours who he has left them with, abuse them, hurt them, even kill them. He knows this but does nothing.

He says that one day, he will return and if the neighbours have not taught them the truth of his letter or his children have misinterpreted his letter. or got tired of waiting for him, he will make them suffer eternally for it.

Yes, a parent is a great analogy to use, because it shows what a truly terrible parent God is.
I liken God to the bad spouse. He is never home, never answers, never helps you when you need it, but tells you what you want to hear, how he loves you, how he has some big house waiting for you...blah blah blah.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:21 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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I liken God to the bad spouse. He is never home, never answers, never helps you when you need it, but tells you what you want to hear, how he loves you, how he has some big house waiting for you...blah blah blah.
Then you're no different from those Christians who believe that it is all the Devil's fault.
When married couples fight, the fault often lies with both of them; it takes 2 to tango.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:30 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by nebulous1 Then you're no different from those Christians who believe that it is all the Devil's fault.
When married couples fight, the fault often lies with both of them; it takes 2 to tango.

Blame isn't always equally spread.

But it is the fault of the person who chooses to stay with the dysfunctional or evil person.

I don't believe in any god. There simply is no proof of one.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:38 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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I don't believe in any god. There simply is no proof of one.
As long as you don't hurt anyone I believe that you certainly are free to believe what you want.
But you forget that religions also have done some wonderful things.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by nebulous1As long as you don't hurt anyone I believe that you certainly are free to believe what you want.
But you forget that religions also have done some wonderful things.

It is like justifying Santa Claus.
Some gifts appear under the tree, but there was no Santa doing it.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:44 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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It is like justifying Santa Claus.
Some gifts appear under the tree, but there was no Santa doing it.
There you go again.
You accuse others for your own ignorance. Even as a child I understood that Santa never existed and that is was my parents who gave me these gifts.
So are you saying that my parents didn't love me because they claimed it was Santa who brought me these gifts?
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