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Wow, Jeffy! This interest in Native Americans must be brand new for you. There are several Native Americans on this board and you've done a VERY good job of ignoring their posts when they challenge the CD fundamentalists. Feel free to jump right in next time!
p.s. During the AIDS epidemic the atheists were helping take care of all the gay men who were abandoned by their fundamentalist parents and left to die alone.
p.s. During the AIDS epidemic the atheists were helping take care of all the gay men who were abandoned by their fundamentalist parents and left to die alone.
Holy Cow! They did that? I mean the fundamentalists? Holy ****! Evil personified!
Wow, Jeffy! This interest in Native Americans must be brand new for you. There are several Native Americans on this board and you've done a VERY good job of ignoring their posts when they challenge the CD fundamentalists. Feel free to jump right in next time!
p.s. During the AIDS epidemic the atheists were helping take care of all the gay men who were abandoned by their fundamentalist parents and left to die alone.
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Originally Posted by 303Guy
Holy Cow! They did that? I mean the fundamentalists? Holy ****! Evil personified!
It only served to highlight the gross perversion and corruption of Christ's Gospel perpetrated by the mainstream anti-Christ apostate churches, as prophesied for these latter days.There was no love in their hearts. It was pure evil indeed.
Atheists are not the ones ringing doorbells and waking people up at 8 a.m. on a Sunday in order to try to convert them. Now THAT is mean!
They just have different methods of doing the same thing. The welfare state, the whole scientific materialist philosophy that dominates our thought in our universities, etc. They hardly need to knock on doors. Atheists are dominant in a lot of key positions of influence in society.
They just have different methods of doing the same thing. The welfare state, the whole scientific materialist philosophy that dominates our thought in our universities, etc. They hardly need to knock on doors. Atheists are dominant in a lot of key positions of influence in society.
They just have different methods of doing the same thing. The welfare state, the whole scientific materialist philosophy that dominates our thought in our universities, etc. They hardly need to knock on doors. Atheists are dominant in a lot of key positions of influence in society.
Can you explain why atheism is concerned with the welfare state? Atheism is one position on one subject and addresses nothing else.
"I belong to a primitive religion from the Bronze Age, and I believe that everyone in America should be forced to live their lives according to the laws of my religion and that all public schools should be forced to teach my religion to everyone's children instead of modern science."
"No, what you believe is nonsense, and you do not have the right to force it on people who choose not to believe it."
"I belong to a primitive religion from the Bronze Age, and I believe that everyone in America should be forced to live their lives according to the laws of my religion and that all public schools should be forced to teach my religion to everyone's children instead of modern science."
"No, what you believe is nonsense, and you do not have the right to force it on people who choose not to believe it."
"I AM BEING MISTREATED!!!!!!"
Does that about sum it up?
Just about. But might I add... ?
"Look, a Darwin fish on a car! And over there are two guys holding hands and no one's arresting them! And I just saw a Richard Dawkins book on a shelf!"
"Stop this oppression!"
This is how entrenched groups act when their monopoly on power starts to erode. They lash out, and claim that the social diffusion of power away from their privileged bunch to other groups represents unfairness, abuse, and oppression. We've seen it from many men, many whites, many straights (and I say this as a straight white male) and from many Christians. So it's not just a trait of Christianity of even religion in general.
That said, there is definitely an underlying current among many Christian groups that is deeply vested in the notion that they are being oppressively crushed under the boot of an anti-Christian power. This probably stems from the early days of the religion when it was genuinely an oppressed minority wherever it was. They revel in the role of the underdog, fighting for The Truthâ„¢ against liars and deceivers and wrongdoers. And the fact that religions tend to begin their existence as oppressed, or at least marginalized, probably means that while this tendency toward perceived victimhood is not exclusive to religions, it is a particularly common and natural viewpoint among them.
"Look, a Darwin fish on a car! And over there are two guys holding hands and no one's arresting them! And I just saw a Richard Dawkins book on a shelf!"
"Stop this oppression!"
This is how entrenched groups act when their monopoly on power starts to erode. They lash out, and claim that the social diffusion of power away from their privileged bunch to other groups represents unfairness, abuse, and oppression.
In the news recently, sociologists have identified a population subgroup they labeled "authoritarian". It is not strictly religious in makeup, and the authoritarianism is largely latent until activated, usually by a combination of perceived outside threats (terrorists, illegal immigrants) and certain kinds of unapproved social change (e.g., gay marriage). In these situations there is much fear and loathing and a desire to "do something" about the perceived existential threat, at any cost. This makes them vulnerable to a "strong man" who promises to fix these issues -- even at the expense of personal freedoms.
This tendency has been misidentified with both fascism and fundamentalist religion, but those are really symptoms rather than causes.
The questions they developed to identify "authoritarian" types were innocuous child-rearing questions, such as, "is it more important for a child to be self-sufficient, or obedient?"
Trump and Cruz would probably be the two current American presidential candidates most appealing to authoritarians. In the case of Trump, who is clearly no evangelical, all it takes is some naked flattery and empty promises to pander to evangelicals quite effectively. That's how strong their persecution narrative is, and how desperate they are for a "strong man".
In the news recently, sociologists have identified a population subgroup they labeled "authoritarian". It is not strictly religious in makeup, and the authoritarianism is largely latent until activated, usually by a combination of perceived outside threats (terrorists, illegal immigrants) and certain kinds of unapproved social change (e.g., gay marriage). In these situations there is much fear and loathing and a desire to "do something" about the perceived existential threat, at any cost. This makes them vulnerable to a "strong man" who promises to fix these issues -- even at the expense of personal freedoms.
This tendency has been misidentified with both fascism and fundamentalist religion, but those are really symptoms rather than causes.
The questions they developed to identify "authoritarian" types were innocuous child-rearing questions, such as, "is it more important for a child to be self-sufficient, or obedient?"
Trump and Cruz would probably be the two current American presidential candidates most appealing to authoritarians. In the case of Trump, who is clearly no evangelical, all it takes is some naked flattery and empty promises to pander to evangelicals quite effectively. That's how strong their persecution narrative is, and how desperate they are for a "strong man".
Interesting perspective that has the feel of truth - as is often the case with your posts. You are one of CD's shining lights.
Too soon, as usual.
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