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That picture shows the level of your maturity. You have my sympathy.
Yes..."God" is a descriptor. That which I have described as "God" exists...and it fully comports definitively. Thus, Atheism is rendered null & void.
Yes, and trolling websites and trying to rile people up from your porn club (or whatever. Who really cares?) shows you are SO MUCH MORE mature. Bigfoot is a descriptor. So I guess they exist too, since people have seen them and they match the dictionary definition of Bigfoot. So therefore, that which they describe as Bigfoot exists.
Hey this is fun! We can make ANYTHING exist, simply by claiming it does, and labeling it! Sweet!
Yes, and trolling websites and trying to rile people up from your porn club (or whatever. Who really cares?) shows you are SO MUCH MORE mature. Bigfoot is a descriptor. So I guess they exist too, since people have seen them and they match the dictionary definition of Bigfoot. So therefore, that which they describe as Bigfoot exists.
Hey this is fun! We can make ANYTHING exist, simply by claiming it does, and labeling it! Sweet!
Bogus analogy.. but, that figures.
Debateable if what they saw was Bigfoot. It might not have been...and thus not actually exist.
On the other hand...ALL/EVERYTHING is constantly observable by everyone, and objectively exists.
Bogus analogy.. but, that figures.
Debateable if what they saw was Bigfoot. It might not have been...and thus not actually exist.
On the other hand...ALL/EVERYTHING is constantly observable by everyone, and objectively exists.
Yes, but you can not prove that all/everything IS God (anymore than those people can prove they saw Bigfoot), beyond simply labeling as such, and saying it exists. This doesn't actually mean it exists, it simply means you call it God.
Yes, but you can not prove that all/everything IS God (anymore than those people can prove they saw Bigfoot), beyond simply labeling as such, and saying it exists. This doesn't actually mean it exists, it simply means you call it God.
My perception of it as GOD...if it comports definitively, and is reasonable and logical to perceive it as such...is all the proof needed. You need to get hip to that.
My perception of it as GOD...if it comports definitively, and is reasonable and logical to perceive it as such...is all the proof needed. You need to get hip to that.
You need to get hip to the fact that YOUR perception is nothing more than YOUR perception. It does nothing to prove the existence of anything other than a definition and label.
You need to get hip to the fact that YOUR perception is nothing more than YOUR perception. It does nothing to prove the existence of anything other than a definition and label.
That's right! MY perception.
It comports definitively...it is logical and reasonable...and what I perceive as God objectively exists.
Solid proof...irrefutable!
Unlike illogical Atheism...based on a flawed "No Evidence" premise.
Yes, but you can not prove that all/everything IS God (anymore than those people can prove they saw Bigfoot), beyond simply labeling as such, and saying it exists. This doesn't actually mean it exists, it simply means you call it God.
This is tiresome, but I know Gldn enjoys it. It is the fact that it IS the Source of everything that exists that makes it God by the original concept of God. You can pretend that we cannot consider it God not knowing what it is or why it is, but that is simply denial in reaction to the myriad absurd beliefs ABOUT God that preceded your existence. You have an allergy to the concept of God despite the fact our reality fits the concept if anything does. What else would be God to us???
What good is any sort of God that is just " everything that is"?
Even if one were to admit to this concept, so what? We can choose to define the concept of God in such a way as to call the universe God , so now what ?
And yes, this nothing concept of "God as the universe " is tiresome when continually brought into discussions about the normal understanding of God as a supernatural being , and atheism as a disbelief in such supernatural beings .
This is tiresome, but I know Gldn enjoys it. It is the fact that it IS the Source of everything that exists that makes it God by the original concept of God. You can pretend that we cannot consider it God not knowing what it is or why it is, but that is simply denial in reaction to the myriad absurd beliefs ABOUT God that preceded your existence. You have an allergy to the concept of God despite the fact our reality fits the concept if anything does. What else would be God to us???
Of course it is GOD to us. That is logical, reasonable, and fully evident. Once you explained the general concept to me...it took me about two seconds to see the facts of the matter. It makes perfect sense...well, at least to those not afflicted with
Godophobia.
Finally done with this work here. 18 straight hours...too much! Time to get some sleep.
Thanx to all the great participants to help me get through all the lags today.
This is tiresome, but I know Gldn enjoys it. It is the fact that it IS the Source of everything that exists that makes it God by the original concept of God. You can pretend that we cannot consider it God not knowing what it is or why it is, but that is simply denial in reaction to the myriad absurd beliefs ABOUT God that preceded your existence. You have an allergy to the concept of God despite the fact our reality fits the concept if anything does. What else would be God to us???
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Originally Posted by wallflash
What good is any sort of God that is just " everything that is"?
Even if one were to admit to this concept, so what? We can choose to define the concept of God in such a way as to call the universe God , so now what ?
And yes, this nothing concept of "God as the universe " is tiresome when continually brought into discussions about the normal understanding of God as a supernatural being .
There is an easy solution to your aggravation about the concept. STOP claiming God does NOT exist and there is no evidence or reason on offer that God EXISTS. THAT is the unsupportable and irritating atheist theme that is completely unsupportable. Eliminate the EXISTENCE claims from your arguments and you will eliminate the concept of "God as the universe " cropping up in your discussions of the myriad BELIEFS ABOUT God that you are actually arguing against.
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