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"A belief in some supernatural (outside of normal mundane knowledge) entity, and the practice of the rites through which that entity can be propitiated in order to obtain benefits in this life, or a postulated next life". That would include Scientology and Buddhism, too (the 'entity' being Karma) and indeed the Raelians. It could at a stretch even cover Confucianism.
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Buddhism has nothing supernatural in it. it is nothing but a VERY hard work and dedication over eons. You can become Buddha, should you chose so. Cross it out. Buddha is not a supernatural being. It's state of progression of a human being into what is not recognized by materialism.
Buddhism has nothirng supernatural in it. it is nothing but a VERY hard work and dedication over eons. You can become Buddha, should you chose so. Cross it out. Buddha is not a supernatural being. It's state of progression of a human being into what is not recognized by materialism.
What is the difference? If it is not recognized as part of the material (aka natural) world, isn't it pretty much, by definition, super-natural?
Buddhism has nothing supernatural in it. it is nothing but a VERY hard work and dedication over eons. You can become Buddha, should you chose so. Cross it out. Buddha is not a supernatural being. It's state of progression of a human being into what is not recognized by materialism.
yes, that is correct
to the other poster fishbrains.....urkoz is correct
That one doesn't even come close to describing Scientology
2● An organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods
That one doesn't describe Scientology either.
3● An interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group; viz: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith.
That one works and I'll tell you why.
After watching an HBO documentary recently, I've come to the conclusion that Scientology isn't a religion in accordance with the normal sense of the word; rather, is best described as a psychiatric therapy designed to help people cope with destructive mental and emotional disorders caused by personal contact with malicious disembodied spirits of deceased aliens from outer space called Thetans.
In other words: Scientology isn't a deity-centered philosophy, rather, an ET-centered philosophy.
If somebody has a better description of Scientology than that; I'd be curious to hear about it.
FYI: The inventor of Scientology-- L.Ron Hubbard --was at one time a prolific science fiction writer.
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Of course its a religion. Religions are man made, this is just one recent one. Some religions are fortunate enough to have the patina of time on them, and to have gotten established before reliable reporting, accurate recording, photography, communication etc. Those ones are in the position (the ones that didn't die out) of having the notion of "authenticity" due to that. But don't be fooled.
.....That would include Scientology and Buddhism, too ...
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Originally Posted by ukrkoz
Buddhism has nothing supernatural in it. it is nothing but a VERY hard work and dedication over eons. You can become Buddha, should you chose so. Cross it out. Buddha is not a supernatural being. It's state of progression of a human being into what is not recognized by materialism.
i like this. a lot. including the cross it out, which makes me smile.
urkoz is right. i already said that but i'm saying it again because i really like it.
Transponder, it's not about what you know or learn or believe, it's not about ideas.
It's about who you become.
That's why it's a discipline. And not an idea.
Well, Buddhism is a religion, and most Buddhists are also atheists.
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Originally Posted by bg7
Of course its a religion. Religions are man made, this is just one recent one. Some religions are fortunate enough to have the patina of time on them, and to have gotten established before reliable reporting, accurate recording, photography, communication etc. Those ones are in the position (the ones that didn't die out) of having the notion of "authenticity" due to that. But don't be fooled.
Dictionary definitions written by Christians notwithstanding, the word religion comes from the Latin root religare, to bind together. It evolved into a meaning, to bind people together in reverence. Reverence is the act of acknowledging something of ultimate value other than one's own personal interest. The way that serves society is the reason why religion evolved - evolved differently in different places, but still evolved. Without the pallor of Dominionism, both Buddhism and Scientology are clearly religions, whether one likes it or not.
TThis also makes no sense. Shouldn't you use language in its current manner, rather than throwing in occasional obsolete usages of a word?
Well, only if one wants to make sense. That's clearly not a priority for some.
Language change is perpetual. Some people have this fanciful idea that when language changes, it has become 'wrong' where it was once 'right' - this ignores the reality that even the preferred earlier form was invariably an altered version of some still-earlier form.
Scientology is a strange little number. I lived for 30 years near it's Clearwater headquarters. The folks
within Scientlogybare very nice people, have supported many venues and have a great Christmas village each year even inviting christian worship groups too perform on stage. There hot chocolate is welcomed in the cool night air. Scientology theoretically has revitalized Clearwater not withstanding downtown. What makes it strange is its origins and via L Ron Hubbard a science fiction guru somehow convincing very intelligent extremely good people to buy the scenario that Zeus ( alien) entered a volcano with the goal of restoring mankind s mind and save the planet. Via a series of "clear" one can expect to rid themselves of confusion, stress, hate, distracting personality traits, build on kindness, forgiveness, enlightenment sought but seldom attained by society without phasing via the tools of Scientology. At the end of the day it's a very costly self improvement sect basking in the tax exempts related to religion. Jesus is defaulted to a prophet along with all religions prophets not withstanding Mohammed. It's security is exaggerated having to pass two doormen at the main lobby. If you approach any interior residential lobby and ask for info immediately a woman or man will hover over the conversation . My experience was related to marketing durable medical for family visitors or anyone with limited mobility. My recommendation is to have bible studies, religious debates and prayer sessions. Scientologists should mix self help with local church as well. I like Scientology people they are energetic, sweet bright people looking for real peace . My number one question " Got God?
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