Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
The Anglican and Catholics loved the natives so much in Canada that they tried and to some part succeeded in beating the native out of them. I am quite surprised to find out that during the 1800s that the majority of Americans were not Christians or at least not voting for their governments.
True many Christians were working for the betterment of the natives, but they were opposed by other Christians. I believe that it was an effort to make the natives Christian that was behind the outlawing of the sun dance, potlatch or other aboriginal traditions. Documents from the time show that this was in accordance with what the general population supported or demanded of their governments. That some Christians opposed it is to their credit but I think you are wrong to imply that all or most Christians opposed it.
You are pointing your finger at who? Certainly away from Christians. If Christians were not at all responsible for the actions of their government in the 19th century who was? Were atheists or Muslims running the country for that period of time?
Like I say, belonging to an organization does not a Christian make. I understand the horrors. I don't agree they were true Christians.
the pogroms my grandparents escaped was from the Russian Orthodox Christians but protestants were not much better than Catholics in their treatment of Jews. And both the USA and Canada refused to accept Jewish refugees in the 1939s and the majority of people in those two countries were Protestant. The Anglican Church was no better and no worse than the Catholic Church.
I like it that you say that you do not want to point a finger but quickly point it away from anything that might be associated with you and towards others like Catholics or governments.
How hard it is to say that people were wrong then just like they were wrong about slavery or wrong about women's rights. If you truly love everyone why try to blame one group for what most people supported or did not oppose. We were wrong about how we treated the native peoples in this continent. We were all to blame. Even the protestants. Even the Jews. Even the atheists.
This is most likely what the volcanoes looked like in posts 595 and 596 above before Noah's flood waters washed away the surroundings of the main lava shaft.
No, that's what every cinder cone looks like. Just like every shield volcano represents a low angled shield and every composite cone has the iconic Mt. Fuji look to them.
Do you understand what "appealing to the human" means? It proves NOTHING. Or the fallacy "if everyone baelieves it it must be so" which likewise is an argmentum ad populum fallacy.
You do not understand what an ad populum fallacy is. Ad populum applies to non expert populations.
Referring to the consensus of a topic expert population is not a fallacy.
It is good that you know about formal logical fallacies though. Now if you could just stop using them in your arguments you might be able to make some progress.
This is what you said "Not only that but the cinder cones of former volcanoes ". Which tells me you have no idea about the subject you are referring to. This is something that anyone who took GEO 101 with Tarbucks textbook would know.
the pogroms my grandparents escaped was from the Russian Orthodox Christians but protestants were not much better than Catholics in their treatment of Jews. And both the USA and Canada refused to accept Jewish refugees in the 1939s and the majority of people in those two countries were Protestant. The Anglican Church was no better and no worse than the Catholic Church.
The GOVERNMENTS OF THE USA AND CANADA refused to accept Jewish refugees. It was not the individual Christians. I would have accepted you personally.
Quote:
I like it that you say that you do not want to point a finger but quickly point it away from anything that might be associated with you and towards others like Catholics or governments.
I'm just saying it is improper for you to point the finger at Christians where the fault might lie elsewhere.
Quote:
How hard it is to say that people were wrong then just like they were wrong about slavery or wrong about women's rights. If you truly love everyone why try to blame one group for what most people supported or did not oppose. We were wrong about how we treated the native peoples in this continent. We were all to blame. Even the protestants. Even the Jews. Even the atheists.
This is what you said "Not only that but the cinder cones of former volcanoes ". Which tells me you have no idea about the subject you are referring to. This is something that anyone who took GEO 101 with Tarbucks textbook would know.
Tomato Tomawto.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
