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Not really. Here you are a puny human with a consciousness that rejects as a God relative to you the very Source of your existence, consciousness and everything else. I call that pretty arrogant.
Why? We have no reason to believe our existence is due to a god.
Not really. Here you are a puny human with a consciousness that rejects as a God relative to you the very Source of your existence, consciousness and everything else. I call that pretty arrogant.
Hmm
It's weird. I see it the opposite.
It seems, to me, that you're the arrogant one - you believe yourself so special that your existence requires divinity.
:shrug:
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I do not understand your fixation on finding something that is large, ancient, or powerful relative to you, and then affording it the label "god". The only arrogance would be saying that I am larger, more ancient and/or more powerful than anything else ... but my not affording worship to things greater than me is not arrogant. Assuming these things should be worshiped or afforded special status is what would be arrogant. These things simply ARE. I note their characteristics, but I make no special pleading for them either, nor do I leap to conclusions beyond what current evidence and knowledge can support.
Calling "ALL REALITY/EVERYTHING"..."something that is large, ancient, or powerful" is the ultimate understatement.
"ALL THE ENERGY/MATTER THAT EXISTS AND HAS EXISTED" is as "Godly" as it gets.
It is the Source of everything, as everything is created by and through it...it controls everything through laws and processes we know of...and it maintains, sustains, or eliminates what it has created.
If that isn't "God"...we may as well not even have the term.
Hmm
It's weird. I see it the opposite.
It seems, to me, that you're the arrogant one - you believe yourself so special that your existence requires divinity.
:shrug:
And that everyone uses his definition over the more commonly used ones. That I guess is my fault on this thread is not defining what each and every word meant.
Not really. Here you are a puny human with a consciousness that rejects as a God relative to you the very Source of your existence, consciousness and everything else. I call that pretty arrogant.
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Originally Posted by mordant
I do not understand your fixation on finding something that is large, ancient, or powerful relative to you, and then affording it the label "god". The only arrogance would be saying that I am larger, more ancient and/or more powerful than anything else ... but my not affording worship to things greater than me is not arrogant. Assuming these things should be worshiped or afforded special status is what would be arrogant. These things simply ARE. I note their characteristics, but I make no special pleading for them either, nor do I leap to conclusions beyond what current evidence and knowledge can support.
Your God-o-phobia blinders and filters refuse to let you acknowledge that "whatever it is" that is responsible for the very existence of EVERYTHING in existence qualifies as a God to us no matter WHAT it is. The fact that others ascribe things to this God that you do not agree with or consider irrational or absurd or just plain stupid has no bearing on the facts on the ground.
Calling "ALL REALITY/EVERYTHING"..."something that is large, ancient, or powerful" is the ultimate understatement.
"ALL THE ENERGY/MATTER THAT EXISTS AND HAS EXISTED" is as "Godly" as it gets.
It is the Source of everything, as everything is created by and through it...it controls everything through laws and processes we know of...and it maintains, sustains, or eliminates what it has created.
If that isn't "God"...we may as well not even have the term.
What he is asking gld, is do you think we should "hail" this universe past regular 'awe" at whats going on around us?
he twisted up a bit because he is so scared by the inability to blame his parents and himself for how stoop without the I.D., but that's basically what he is asking.
That's fine.
You can call a lamp a penis for all that it matters.
However, to then go to the police and say "BQQ is walking down the street rubbing his penis" is (funny if you're in 3rd grade) intellectually dishonest - as is saying "I think nature is god. Nature exists. So atheism is bunk".
Your God-o-phobia blinders and filters refuse to let you acknowledge that "whatever it is" that is responsible for the very existence of EVERYTHING in existence qualifies as a God to us no matter WHAT it is. The fact that others ascribe things to this God that you do not agree with or consider irrational or absurd or just plain stupid has no bearing on the facts on the ground.
I'm seriously curious Mistic, what viable evidence do you have to base your belief upon? The world has multiple religions that have large numbers of believers and ancient writings.
When considering such an amazing being as an all creator, do you not agree the Bible claim to be inconsistent with such a being? I don't think you accept the absurdities, so why is it you accept parts of it as viable evidence?
Your God-o-phobia blinders and filters refuse to let you acknowledge that "whatever it is" that is responsible for the very existence of EVERYTHING in existence qualifies as a God to us no matter WHAT it is. The fact that others ascribe things to this God that you do not agree with or consider irrational or absurd or just plain stupid has no bearing on the facts on the ground.
it would be funny, but because he is dishonest about what he is doing, it bothers me. I mean the blind faith statement of "reject everything" is irrational.
Withholding valid science interpretations because he feels it will make his job harder to convert people to atheism is, well, you fill in the blank.
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