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Old 10-25-2012, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Stellenbosch, South Africa
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Hey, City-Data Forum!
Well, I am a religious person and I have a lot of atheist friends. So, one of these days, I and my friends were discussing this:

According to them, the more people pray, the less prosperous they will be. And the less they pray they'll be more successful. For example, people in the Scandinavian countries, Japan, Western Europe which are majority atheist have a higher standard of living than those in religious countries such as India, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Angola, etc...

Now I ask: why so? shouldn't it be the other way around? Doesn't God love those poor people?

PS: sorry for my grammar/vocabulary, English is not my native language.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:23 AM
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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It is because religious people do not want to advance society, they want it to go back to the stone age. Advancement breeds prosperity. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Boise
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These countries are great examples of why religion and government should never be together. Religion is a personal thing and politics is a public thing. When the two are combined everything personal becomes public and everything public becomes personal; people have no personal life and they all have the same public life.
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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It all depends on what one considers what is the cause and what is the effect.

Does a reduction in religion result in increased prosperity or does an increase in prosperity result in a decrease of religion?

Perhaps it is not the reduction of religion that resulted in prosperity but rather it is increased prosperity resulted in a reduction of religion.
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:33 AM
 
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Do you have any correlative statistics or this thread is just hearsay..
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:45 PM
 
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Hey, City-Data Forum!
Well, I am a religious person and I have a lot of atheist friends. So, one of these days, I and my friends were discussing this:

According to them, the more people pray, the less prosperous they will be. And the less they pray they'll be more successful. For example, people in the Scandinavian countries, Japan, Western Europe which are majority atheist have a higher standard of living than those in religious countries such as India, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Angola, etc...

Now I ask: why so? shouldn't it be the other way around? Doesn't God love those poor people?

PS: sorry for my grammar/vocabulary, English is not my native language.
Nope, not true. Being irreligious is actually correlated with less college education and poverty!

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Old 10-25-2012, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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Worldwide surveys have consistently ranked the Scandinavian countries — with their generous family-leave policies, low crime, free health care, rich economies and, yes, high income taxes — as the happiest places on earth. But this happiness has always been accompanied by a paradox: the happiest countries also seem to have the highest suicide rates.

Why the Happiest States Have the Highest Suicide Rates | TIME.com

There’s one thing that happiness studies seem to leave out, however. Some of the happiest countries in the world – Finland, Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland and the United States, for instance – also have the highest suicide rates in the world.

BBC - Travel - Why are Finns so happy? : Finland

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Old 10-25-2012, 02:31 PM
 
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Nope, not true. Being irreligious is actually correlated with less college education and poverty!
LOL!
No, it isn't. Religion thrives on the poor and uneducated.
The Bible and its god were created precisely to control those types, and to take their money.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:32 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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It is because religious people do not want to advance society, they want it to go back to the stone age. Advancement breeds prosperity. Just my 2 cents.
So all religious people want to go back to the stone age.?
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:21 PM
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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So all religious people want to go back to the stone age.?
Sorry, forgot people here can't tell an exaggeration. I simply meant that religious types do not want advancement like non religious types, as this is one reason, i believe, that makes people "stray" from religion. Advancement seems to make more atheists. Most religious leaders want their followers uneducated, it keeps them ignorant enough to keep believing fairy tales.
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