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Old 01-29-2018, 11:06 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I know there are thousands of lurkers. 10,000 + of them hit on me daily. I am profoundly grateful that they do.

 
Old 01-29-2018, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Kent, Ohio
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I know there are thousands of lurkers. 10,000 + of them hit on me daily. I am profoundly grateful that they do.
I've wondered about that. Does the "read X times" mean the number of times people have visited a thread in which we've posted? Or the number of times they've visited a page on which we've posted? In any case, I have a feeling that not a lot of people are likely to land on page 265 of a thread.
I practically never see a page from City-Data pop up on a search (although I rarely drill down past the first or second page of search).

I don't really expect my posts here to be read much. I'm just here for the booze and chics.

(Disclaimer for the humor-impaired: That was a joke. C-D does not offer literal access to intoxicants or the real-space company of living humans. Doggonit.)

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Old 01-29-2018, 04:08 PM
 
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I know there are thousands of lurkers. 10,000 + of them hit on me daily. I am profoundly grateful that they do.
10,000 of thousands also read anti-religious socialism is not about liberty and freedom. It is, in fact, one of the most dangerous idology to freedom and liberty.

Its about the sole elimination of people that don't think "like me". deny anything and everything for the the sole purpose of advancing the atheistic personal need based faith. they are especially nasty when from outside the border.

i too thank the lukers ... keep reading and keep using common sense, reason, and logic. "atheism" does not mean deny everything. That's not science. that's not how the universe works.
 
Old 01-29-2018, 04:14 PM
 
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If there was any doubt about your unwillingness to address your views critically and assess them against a rational standard this post eliminates all doubt. You clearly do not believe there is any such thing as a rational basis for evaluating controversial ideas since you refuse to accept the existence of anything short of true/false which you feel does NOT apply to these issues. As Gaylen would probably say there is a spectrum of probability and some are so low that they are equivalently false. You seem not to credit that idea as you cling to very low probability ideas backed by magical thinking. Am I wrong?
lmao, you could post this exact same thing to trans and his gang. The magic in trans's thinking is that we are the most complex volume (using complexity vs volume ratio and a measurement) in this region of space. its almost impossible to make that claim to sound more valid without blind faith and magic.
 
Old 01-29-2018, 04:18 PM
 
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I maintain that I HAVE debunked you repeatedly from our first encounter in the Matrix/Plantinga thread where I pointed out that your use of Imperfect human perception was invalid because science was designed to get around that and does produce valid results. This is simple and doesn't need a Phd, but you use your certificate -waving to try to steamroller a point you can't refute.
yeah, you debunked him alright. Like yec have debunked the rock record. 80 - 20 applies. You don't even know how bad you lost.

To steal a phrase from the great trout, the length of your post I quoted is an indicator. truth vs volume is much gless than 1 for you. maybe by a couple of factors of (-) ten.

that's really bad just in case you don't see.
 
Old 01-29-2018, 04:23 PM
 
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there are some really long posts.

non magical christianity, jefferson style, is good stuff. Ignorance, the real original sin we are born with, can be beaten by living like a christ.

learning more and realizing how wrong I was is saving me. Everyday.

I wish i could go back to sleep and rejoin arg's and mort's gang again. It was so easy blaming others.
 
Old 01-29-2018, 05:20 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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there are no 1000's of lurkers here. what you see is what you get
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I know there are thousands of lurkers. 10,000 + of them hit on me daily. I am profoundly grateful that they do.
I just looked at the Moderator Panel where we can see some things that are not available to regular members & guests. The servers are currently providing pages to 45,720 Users (6,027 members and 39,693 guests), so I guess there are quite a few lurkers. (I don't know if that is a high, low, or average number of users.) I don't know what the "read X times" means.
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Old 01-29-2018, 05:21 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I've wondered about that. Does the "read X times" mean the number of times people have visited a thread in which we've posted? Or the number of times they've visited a page on which we've posted? In any case, I have a feeling that not a lot of people are likely to land on page 265 of a thread.
I practically never see a page from City-Data pop up on a search (although I rarely drill down past the first or second page of search).

I don't really expect my posts here to be read much. I'm just here for the booze and chics.

(Disclaimer for the humor-impaired: That was a joke. C-D does not offer literal access to intoxicants or the real-space company of living humans. Doggonit.)
Well, I'm not sure I always assumed it was each a hit on anything I posted.
 
Old 01-29-2018, 07:46 PM
 
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The "'love' jazz" grandpa references is not just a warm fuzzy feeling, but is exactly what he is talking about in terms of respect: a concern for the well-being of everyone in any situation. That's why those who actually understand this specify "agape" in their presentation, and why the failure to understand this leads to so much confusion and drivel from those who refuse to give up the idea that "love" is just "warm fuzzies."


'logical" is simply logical or it is not. The only difference in what is to one person and not to another is what premises the logic is based on, which is why internal consistency is such a pitfall for "holy-book-based" apologists.

The bold part.
It looks good in books but light years away from being pragmatic.

Yes, there are powerless, unfortunate and needy among us, who need more of our help on humanitarian grounds rather than this hot air from the mouth: "respect and love".

Otherwise, try diminishing all courts, all law enforcement and free all convicted killers, rapists, pedophiles, thugs and thieves from all prison facilities. And then use that " respect: a concern for the well-being of everyone in any situation. tool to see if you can fix it all?

And this is why this "love jazz" not always a synonym to God. God rewards on one hand but God could also "punish" and punish really bad. Where would you fit "loving God" in there? God is simply Just. You do good, he will do good to you. You do bad to others and be arrogant about it? well, tough poop!! There are consequences. This is how it works. Not only in theological realms but also in our own societies too.

It just doesn't work and it wont work with this jazz of love and love and respect and love and respect and love. There will ALWAYS be among us, who need stick rather than carrots- That's just the way humans are.

Let me repeat, this love jazz or "respect: a concern for the well-being of everyone in any situation" is piece of crock. It doesn't really work all the time.
 
Old 01-29-2018, 08:07 PM
 
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....It just doesn't work and it wont work with this jazz of love and love and respect and love and respect and love.

Let me repeat, this love jazz or "respect: a concern for the well-being of everyone in any situation" is piece of crock. It doesn't really work all the time.

My observation and experience is that those who reject or have a problem with or express contempt and disdain for considering the well being of everyone in a situation--- are the ones who violate and do harm to the well being of others.

If someone says "respect is a crock" they are a danger to society and they are a danger to the individual.

Litmus test: ask, if someone is contemptuous to love and sneers at respect, would you date this person? Would you trust them with your children?

No. And no.

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