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Old 04-16-2018, 09:04 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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If he didn't I did from #722 onwards.
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Old 04-17-2018, 05:26 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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not necessarily the Koi or southern Africa , look at France , Italy , Germany , UK .. etc.
Why do they have different language ?
there are two possibilities for this
1- Adam was giving all the language from Allah
2- Adam was giving only one language and then by time many language were diverted from the main language.
And He taught Adam all the names... The Holy Quran 2:31
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There are more than two possibilities.
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I said there are two possibilities and I have identified both of them.
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So you have tried to Fix the discussion beforehand and with two Permitted options that are both wrong.

Old muslim mate, if you were an undercover operator working to make Islam look like a bad joke, you could not be doing a better job of it.
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Harry Diogenes said that there are more than two possibilities and he did not identify even one .
Harry didn't need to. It's way too obvious. Here. I'll give you a few other possibilities.

3. Many languages developed because civilizations developed in many parts of the world.

4. Some languages diversified as populations separated. It's why Australians, Americans, & British all speak English but can barely understand each other. Same with Brazil and Portugal.

5. Languages in different places developed differently based on local needs. Native languages in Alaska had many words for snow, but no words for war.

6. ...

... and so it goes. Another "unquestionable evidence" questioned.
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Old 04-22-2018, 07:16 PM
 
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Harry didn't need to. It's way too obvious. Here. I'll give you a few other possibilities.

3. Many languages developed because civilizations developed in many parts of the world.

4. Some languages diversified as populations separated. It's why Australians, Americans, & British all speak English but can barely understand each other. Same with Brazil and Portugal.

5. Languages in different places developed differently based on local needs. Native languages in Alaska had many words for snow, but no words for war.

6. ...

... and so it goes. Another "unquestionable evidence" questioned.

logical but all of them fall under the umbrella of the two possibilities
and what Allah said it in the final Holy Book The Holy Quran he said it in a previous Holy Book.
And Adam gave names to all cattle,
and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field;
but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. Genesis 2:20 King James Version (KJV)




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Old 04-22-2018, 08:32 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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That story is highly improbable and does not accord with what Anthropological and palaeontological evidence suggests about Human origins.

Thus, not only does it undermine the credibility of the Bible, but if the Quran refribbs the story for its' own purposes, it undermines the credibility of the Quran, too.
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Germany
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logical but all of them fall under the umbrella of the two possibilities
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Hundreds of posts - and apparently truthie has no idea what "unquestionable" means.
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:09 AM
 
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logical but all of them fall under the umbrella of the two possibilities
and what Allah said it in the final Holy Book The Holy Quran he said it in a previous Holy Book.
And Adam gave names to all cattle,
and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field;
but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. Genesis 2:20 King James Version (KJV)




no mechanism, not as valid.

Its that simple.
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Old 04-23-2018, 03:02 PM
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These johnny-come-lately second attempt Abrahamic religions do at least have the benefits of seeing centuries of holes in the first ones. You think they'd have done a better job about stating clearly slavery was an abomination (instead of just mentioning it without condemning it effectively condoning it) and other such small details.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:53 PM
 
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That story is highly improbable and does not accord with what Anthropological and palaeontological evidence suggests about Human origins.
Thus, not only does it undermine the credibility of the Bible, but if the Quran refribbs the story for its' own purposes, it undermines the credibility of the Quran, too.
the are many holy books before the Quran at least three and the source of them is Allah , same as the source of the Quran and the similar stories in the Quran and them is another evidence but I agree the previous holy books
contains things not from Allah.
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These johnny-come-lately second attempt Abrahamic religions do at least have the benefits of seeing centuries of holes in the first ones. You think they'd have done a better job about stating clearly slavery was an abomination (instead of just mentioning it without condemning it effectively condoning it) and other such small details.
Abrahamic religions and Noah religion and Moses religion and Jesus religion and Mahammad religion
are all from Allah and the idea is to follow Allah not them but via them.
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Old 05-17-2018, 02:48 PM
 
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I thought that this was the Christian forum, and not one for Islamic proselytizing.

Islam is an ahistoric invention for Turkmen and Arabs who have a tribal interest in denying the reality of Christ. It has no validity, especially over Christianity that has a theological and historical base that makes Islam's look rudimentary (ie: overly basic and lacking a longer historical context).

"Allah" has its etymological root in the "El" concept of a Father deity. El always had a more Earthly understudy, and a Queen or consort that was the basis for these religions. The religion was the entire pantheon, and there was never a justification for "El" ever existing in a solitary fashion. "El" was never worshiped as a solitary monotheistic god, and moreover he wasn't a Turkish / Arab god. The understudy is as important as the Father in the entire religious concept, as he was through whom the human civilization is possible. He also established the religious basis for rulership.

The Turks and Arabs essentially took one part of the broader pantheon of the Levant and decided to make a religion out of it. It would be exactly the same as saying that you are going to see the movie "The Sixth Sense" but instead went to stare at a movie of Bruce Willis planting flowers and then attributing a plot to it. You are basically worshiping a god that has no root in a cohesive religious concept that has any place in notable history.

There is nothing original in Islam, and its concept is simplistic to the point of irrelevance. Its numerology is easily inserted.

Islam offers nothing for the West. It won't take any more land in Eurasia, and moreover it will see its territory slowly reduced over the next couple of hundred years.
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