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Old 10-30-2023, 07:49 PM
 
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another evidence

Recently, after the invention of electronic microscopes, there are creatures living on the body of the mosquito.
Microorganisms have been discovered that live on the back of the mosquito.
Among them are types of small flies called midge https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...-of-their-own/

The Holy Quran hinted for this more 1400 years ago
Surely Allah is not ashamed to set forth any parable-- (that of) a gnat or any thing above it;
then as for those who believe, they know that it is the truth from their Lord,
and as for those who disbelieve, they say:
What is it that Allah means by this parable:
He causes many to err by it and many He leads aright by it!
but He does not cause to err by it (any) except the transgressors,
You do realize that we humans, that includes those who were living during the days of Mohammed, are able to see a gnat without the use of a microscope, correct?

BTW,
What does Allah saying that he won't hesitate to give an example or give a parable about anything whether it's something as small as a gnat, evidence of? Did Allah mean that he won't hesitate to use you as an example of someone who doesn't understand his teachings and will say silly things as if it were the truth?

I don't believe in Allah but I have to admit, that verse is pretty accurate.
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Old 11-03-2023, 02:22 PM
 
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another evidence

about 100 years ago scintests discovered that the universe is expanding

The Holy Quran mentioned that more 1400 years ago

And the heaven, We raised it high with power, and most surely We are the makers of things ample.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PWUTKkA5LQ
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Old 11-04-2023, 03:49 AM
 
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[quote=truth_teller;66031924]another evidence

about 100 years ago scintests discovered that the universe is expanding

The Holy Quran mentioned that more 1400 years ago

<b>
And the heaven, We raised it high with power, and most surely We are the makers of things ample.
</b>

The passage you quoted does not mention an expanding universe.
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Old 11-04-2023, 03:55 AM
 
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another evidence

Recently, after the invention of electronic microscopes, there are creatures living on the body of the mosquito.
Microorganisms have been discovered that live on the back of the mosquito.
Among them are types of small flies called midge https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...-of-their-own/

The Holy Quran hinted for this more 1400 years ago
Surely Allah is not ashamed to set forth any parable-- (that of) a gnat or any thing above it;
then as for those who believe, they know that it is the truth from their Lord,
and as for those who disbelieve, they say:
What is it that Allah means by this parable:
He causes many to err by it and many He leads aright by it!
but He does not cause to err by it (any) except the transgressors,
I have checked various translations, they are talking about size, not location. Twisting your own scripture is not evidence.
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Old 11-04-2023, 07:43 AM
 
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I have checked various translations, they are talking about size, not location. Twisting your own scripture is not evidence.
50% I agree with you

here is the verse in the origion arabic langauge إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَسْتَحْيِي أَن يَضْرِبَ مَثَلًا مَّا بَعُوضَةً فَمَا فَوْقَهَا

this arabic word فَوْقَهَا can mean size or location

and you can translate the whole vesre or just this word using google translation

so the actual interpetration for the verse is size or location or both
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Old 11-04-2023, 08:12 AM
 
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The passage you quoted does not mention an expanding universe.
here is the verse in the origion arabic langauge

وَالسَّمَاءَ بَنَيْنَاهَا بِأَيْدٍ وَإِنَّا لَمُوسِعُونَ


the literal translation for the arabic word وَالسَّمَاءَ is the sky

the literal translation for the arabic word لَمُوسِعُونَ is To expand


and here are four translations for the verse from four sources


Yusuf Ali: With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who create the vastness of pace.
Shakir: And the heaven, We raised it high with power, and most surely We are the makers of things ample.
Pickthall: We have built the heaven with might, and We it is Who make the vast extent (thereof).
Mohsin Khan: With power did We construct the heaven. Verily, We are Able to extend the vastness of space thereof.
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Old 11-06-2023, 11:13 AM
 
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another evidence

Physically and logically the markets are close to each other
now we can shop from any market in any city in the world online

the final Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
The Hour is about not to come
Until
knowledge is lost,
temptations appear,
lies increase,
time converge ,
and markets converge.

Last edited by truth_teller; 11-06-2023 at 12:04 PM..
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Old 11-06-2023, 11:15 AM
 
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another evidence

Physically and logically the markets are close to each other
now we can shop from any market in any city in the world online

the final Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him)
The Hour is about not to come
Until
knowledge is lost,
temptations appear,
lies increase,
time converge ,
and markets converge.
questionable
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Old 11-07-2023, 04:55 AM
 
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here is the verse in the origion arabic langauge

وَالسَّمَاءَ بَنَيْنَاهَا بِأَيْدٍ وَإِنَّا لَمُوسِعُونَ


the literal translation for the arabic word وَالسَّمَاءَ is the sky

the literal translation for the arabic word لَمُوسِعُونَ is To expand


and here are four translations for the verse from four sources


Yusuf Ali: With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who create the vastness of pace.
Shakir: And the heaven, We raised it high with power, and most surely We are the makers of things ample.
Pickthall: We have built the heaven with might, and We it is Who make the vast extent (thereof).
Mohsin Khan: With power did We construct the heaven. Verily, We are Able to extend the vastness of space thereof.
Correct, your 4 sources do not use 'expand', which was only used once it was discovered the universe was expanding. It appears 'expand' as the literal translation for the arabic word لَمُوسِعُونَ only began once the universe was discovered to be expanding. Changing the meaning of a word to invent prophecy is unquestionable evidence you have nothing of value.
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Old 11-08-2023, 11:08 AM
 
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The truth is clear
just use conscience and humanity and open eyes and independent brain
everyone has his own feeling
and he is the only one who will suffer his pain
and enjoy his pleasure

so he should make sure that he is right

There is no compulsion in religion.
The right direction is henceforth distinct from error.
And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break.
Allah is Hearer, Knower.
Allah is the Protecting Guardian of those who believe.
He bringeth them out of darkness into light.
As for those who disbelieve, their patrons are false deities.
They bring them out of light into darkness.
Such are rightful owners of the Fire. They will abide therein.

another evidence

The Quran Describes the Creation of the Universe “The Big Bang” 1400 years ago

Then turned He to the heaven when it was smoke,
and said unto it and unto the earth:
Come both of you, willingly or loth. They said: We come, obedient.

*******
Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth
were of one piece,
then We parted them,

and we made every living thing of water?
Will they not then believe?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bmmfDhsrVM
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