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Old 10-12-2018, 12:13 PM
 
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Wrong, the good news is that our Messiah HAS saved us. Those descriptions apply to humanity BEFORE Christ and the New Covenant where God has "written in our hearts" His Truth and sent us the Comforter in Christ's name to guide us to it.
Interesting. Do you realize the person that I was responding to doesn't believe in Jesus as the Messiah?
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Old 10-12-2018, 12:14 PM
 
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It is you who are fighting the losing battle with your misapplication of scripture...
Come to Messiah, Richard. He will save you.
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Old 10-12-2018, 03:46 PM
 
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Come to Messiah, Richard. He will save you.
From what?...
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Old 10-12-2018, 04:54 PM
 
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Wrong, the good news is that our Messiah HAS saved us. Those descriptions apply to humanity BEFORE Christ and the New Covenant where God has "written in our hearts" His Truth and sent us the Comforter in Christ's name to guide us to it.
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Interesting. Do you realize the person that I was responding to doesn't believe in Jesus as the Messiah?
Yes, do you realize that it doesn't make any difference because what Jesus accomplished He accomplished for ALL of humanity.
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Old 10-12-2018, 05:08 PM
 
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He has written nothing on your hearts...
Is it me or is this a mean thing to tell another person?
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:19 PM
 
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From what?...

Too soon.
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Old 10-13-2018, 07:42 AM
 
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Is it me or is this a mean thing to tell another person?
Just you:


30 Behold, days are coming, says the Lord, and I will form a covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, a new covenant.

31 Not like the covenant that I formed with their forefathers on the day I took them by the hand to take them out of the land of Egypt, that they broke My covenant, although I was a lord over them, says the Lord.

32 For this is the covenant that I will form with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will place My law in their midst and I will inscribe it upon their hearts, and I will be their God and they shall be My people.


Who is this New Covenant to be formed with and whose hearts is it that HaShem will inscribe His Torah upon?...It states it right there in black and white...Notice that G-d does not say that He will inscribe His Torah on the hearts of Judah, just Israel, the Northern Kingdom That went astray, Judah remained faithful to HaShem, so, no reason to inscribe His Torah on their hearts...But he New Covenant is for both houses...
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Old 10-13-2018, 08:23 AM
 
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30 Behold, days are coming, says the Lord, and I will form a covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, a new covenant.

31 Not like the covenant that I formed with their forefathers on the day I took them by the hand to take them out of the land of Egypt, that they broke My covenant, although I was a lord over them, says the Lord.

32 For this is the covenant that I will form with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will place My law in their midst and I will inscribe it upon their hearts, and I will be their God and they shall be My people.


Who is this New Covenant to be formed with and whose hearts is it that HaShem will inscribe His Torah upon?...It states it right there in black and white...Notice that G-d does not say that He will inscribe His Torah on the hearts of Judah, just Israel, the Northern Kingdom That went astray, Judah remained faithful to HaShem, so, no reason to inscribe His Torah on their hearts...But he New Covenant is for both houses...
Thank you for the content and context. In my opinion, the way it was communicated in the text has a different tone than the way you communicated it here. But since it seems I am the only one who had an issue, it is obvious I read more into it than I should have.

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Old 10-13-2018, 08:41 AM
 
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Yes, do you realize that it doesn't make any difference because what Jesus accomplished He accomplished for ALL of humanity.
Yes. Especially to those that believe.

Point is, you and I believe different things. Just as Richard is on a completely different page than you are. He does't buy your gnosticism, so you're probably best to just give it up with him.
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Old 10-13-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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Thank you for the content and context. In my opinion, the way it was communicated in the text has a different tone than the way you communicated it here. But since it seems I am the only one who had an issue, it is obvious I read more into it than I should have.
It wasn’t meant to be mean, but to correct a misunderstanding of scripture which has been co-opted and edited...
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