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Old 11-04-2018, 08:11 AM
 
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To me, there is so much similarity between the Old and New Testaments, that I believe the New Testament must have been written by early Christians who had converted from Judaism.

What do you think of the authorship of the New Testament?

 
Old 11-04-2018, 12:59 PM
 
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To me, there is so much similarity between the Old and New Testaments, that I believe the New Testament must have been written by early Christians who had converted from Judaism.

What do you think of the authorship of the New Testament?
Paulinist Christians. Greeks, probably. Roman citizens, surely. Just possibly converted Jews, but I doubt it - even Matthew who was very interested in the OT with prophecy and Jewish Law, but he didn't seem to understand it. And he detested Jews more than any of the Gospel -writers - even John, which is saying something.
 
Old 11-04-2018, 01:19 PM
 
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To me, there is so much similarity between the Old and New Testaments, that I believe the New Testament must have been written by early Christians who had converted from Judaism.

What do you think of the authorship of the New Testament?
the problem with this "logic"is you are also saying
"there is so much similarity between the Quran and the New Testament that the Quran must have been written by Christians"
"Jesus is in the Quran and Mary too so Christians wrote the Quran" that must be what happened

the "similarity" is that a later group plagiarized an earlier book and the later group claimed to be "right! and truth!" and the earlier book "wrong! and corrupt!"
 
Old 11-04-2018, 01:40 PM
 
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the problem with this "logic"is you are also saying
"there is so much similarity between the Quran and the New Testament that the Quran must have been written by Christians"
"Jesus is in the Quran and Mary too so Christians wrote the Quran" that must be what happened

the "similarity" is that a later group plagiarized an earlier book and the later group claimed to be "right! and truth!" and the earlier book "wrong! and corrupt!"
It is more of a jealousy provoked sibling rivalry that prompted the alternate version, IMO.
 
Old 11-04-2018, 01:48 PM
 
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It is more of a jealousy provoked sibling rivalry that prompted the alternate version, IMO.
NT was written out of jealousy? yup.
 
Old 11-04-2018, 02:09 PM
 
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"New Testament" is a varying canon of books.
 
Old 11-04-2018, 02:46 PM
 
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It is more of a jealousy provoked sibling rivalry that prompted the alternate version, IMO.
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NT was written out of jealousy? yup.
Nope. The Quran was written out of jealousy over the NT. Mohammed as the seed of Abraham through Ishmael was to rival Jesus as the seed of Abraham through Isaac.
 
Old 11-04-2018, 02:54 PM
 
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Paulinist Christians. Greeks, probably. Roman citizens, surely. Just possibly converted Jews, but I doubt it - even Matthew who was very interested in the OT with prophecy and Jewish Law, but he didn't seem to understand it. And he detested Jews more than any of the Gospel -writers - even John, which is saying something.
But the Old and New testaments were both written from the perspective of people who hated their parents generation and were rebelling against it. This occurred in two separate times in Jewish history. After all, those older generations were the ones who became so complacent that they were vulnerable to outside attackers. The "misunderstanding" that you sense is really a kind of humor. No one could be that dumb.
 
Old 11-04-2018, 04:13 PM
 
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Nope. The Quran was written out of jealousy over the NT. Mohammed as the seed of Abraham through Ishmael was to rival Jesus as the seed of Abraham through Isaac.
How do view the seed of Cain, the seed of Ishmael, the seed of Esau?

Those are your people, everyone who doesn't follow the line of the seed of God, Gentiles.

What difference is there between Islam and modern Christianity?

The one thing that has always isolated and kept the seed of God his seed, is their continued obedience to God's religion.

Everyone else is everyone else.
 
Old 11-04-2018, 04:18 PM
 
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To me, there is so much similarity between the Old and New Testaments, that I believe the New Testament must have been written by early Christians who had converted from Judaism.

What do you think of the authorship of the New Testament?
Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism, they didn't convert from Judaism till around 125 A.D. The fathers of Christianity were Pharisees who never stopped being Pharisees as Paul never stopped being a Pharisee unless somebody wants to say that he lied about himself everytime he told us he was a Pharisee, and his proving he was still a Pharisee still walking in the laws of Moses in Acts, he was a Pharisee till the day he died, still walking in Judaism till the day he died.
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