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Old 11-12-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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The one who stayed home is perhaps Judah and the one who left is perhaps Israel...
It is an utterly unbelievable arrogance to think that the Almighty God of everything selected a tiny minority people in a backwater of the Roman Empire 2000+ years ago on a tiny blue dot in the expansive universe as the only ones whose hearts He would write His Truth on.

 
Old 11-12-2018, 03:36 PM
 
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It is an utterly unbelievable arrogance to think that the Almighty God of everything selected a tiny minority people in a backwater of the Roman Empire 2000+ years ago on a tiny blue dot in the expansive universe as the only ones whose hearts He would write His Truth on.
There’s a reason and a purpose for it...Jeremiah 31 says what it says...
 
Old 11-12-2018, 03:37 PM
 
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LOL sorry MysticPhD but apparently you and all too many just do NOT get it. It is NOT (I repeat) NOT just the "Jews" who are chosen. It is all those who are part of the people "Israel" (not to be confused with the country itself). That is 12 Tribes of which Yahudah (the Jews) just happen to be ONE of. Gentiles are NOT part of Israel as they do NOT keep the commandments of YHWH and that which Messiah taught and fully supported.

If you are HIS you are part of Israel and partake of the promise given to Israel the people alone. NO others.The amount to a much larger portion then what you surmise. Get a clue here. It ain't "the church" and it's most certainly not just the Jews either. It's the Torah (which ironically the so called new testament speaks of and directly teaches). They were "letters" not a book, written by teachers/followers of Messiah teaching to walk as HE walked which is IN the Torah.
 
Old 11-12-2018, 03:40 PM
 
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Richard1965, indeed. Yahudah was the "Banner" and leading tribe chose for Israel........for some reason indeed. They kept the oracles of YHWH the Torah. They were at that time "Obedient" which is just about everything before YHWH.
 
Old 11-12-2018, 04:15 PM
 
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Richard1965, indeed. Yahudah was the "Banner" and leading tribe chose for Israel........for some reason indeed. They kept the oracles of YHWH the Torah. They were at that time "Obedient" which is just about everything before YHWH.
I find the Tetragrammaton YHWH stands closer for Yeho.wah' rather than Yahudah.
Although Bible scholars generally favor Yahweh', even though God's name is a 3-syllable name.
 
Old 11-12-2018, 04:20 PM
 
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It is an utterly unbelievable arrogance to think that the Almighty God of everything selected a tiny minority people in a backwater of the Roman Empire 2000+ years ago on a tiny blue dot in the expansive universe as the only ones whose hearts He would write His Truth on.
Seems to me the reason God only chose one particular nation at that time frame is because Messiah would come only through the line of father Abraham. God promised Abraham that ALL families of Earth will be blessed, and ALL nations of Earth will be blessed as per Genesis 12:3; 18:18; 22:18. So, Messiah (Jesus) would come through on nation at that time.
Since Pentecost the way for the Samaritans and then all gentile people of nations could come under Christ as Messiah.
So, through Jesus is why there will be healing for earth's nations as per Revelation 22:2.
This is why all of us are invited to pray the invitation of Rev. 22:20 for Jesus to come !
Come and bring heavenly blessings and benefits to Earth as described in the 35th chapter of Isaiah.
 
Old 11-12-2018, 05:16 PM
 
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There’s a reason and a purpose for it...Jeremiah 31 says what it says...
But that is surely a case of using the Bible to prove the Bible, or the the words that Paulinist Christians put into Jesus mouth being used to prove Paulinist Christianity.
 
Old 11-12-2018, 07:30 PM
 
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There’s a reason and a purpose for it...Jeremiah 31 says what it says...
Jeremiah records what our ancient primitive ancestors thought in their limited understanding of God and reality. Everything was seen in Tribal context as YHWH was their tribal War God. Why would you retain such a primitive understanding?
 
Old 11-12-2018, 07:42 PM
 
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There’s a reason and a purpose for it...Jeremiah 31 says what it says...
They make up their own bible Richard, they reject the great majority of the bible as the word of God, and whatever they need to believe, they believe. All of them altogether speaking of a New Covenant when they can't even quote the New Covenant to have anyone take them seriously, as specific as it is, they like the fairytale they have in their minds.

Revelation talks about this twice, those who sit around claiming to be Jews but are not Jews but do lie, it says they will come to the feet of Jews to be made to acknowledge who and what a Jew is, and that God has always loved Jews.

Christians can't read Jeremiah 31 or any place it shows Ephraim and Judah in a covenant, and there is no guessing who Ephraim and Judah are, they all love and cherish the law.
 
Old 11-13-2018, 03:24 AM
 
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I find the Tetragrammaton YHWH stands closer for Yeho.wah' rather than Yahudah.
Although Bible scholars generally favor Yahweh', even though God's name is a 3-syllable name.
Yahuda is the tribe...
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