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Old 11-06-2018, 01:04 PM
 
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I believe in Jung's concept of the shadow. It could be all wrong, it is not the kind of thing you can prove, but it makes sense to me.

According to Jung, EVERYONE has a shadow. It is any part of our minds that we try to deny and ignore. The more you deny and ignore the shadow, the more powerful it becomes.

So if you perceive yourself as a basically loving and kind person, watch out! If you say you don't envy or compete with anyone, and you have no sense of pride, you could be deep in denial.

Do you find that although all your intentions are basically good, and everything you do is primarily to help others, yet people around you seem to have a lot of troubles?

Do you find that even though all your motives are loving, people around you seem to not be very appreciative of that fact?

Do you ever feel judgmental of others, because they do not seem to be up to your moral standards?

Well, just maybe you and your shadow are not at peace with each other. Why should you be at peace with something as dark and villainous as the shadow? Because if you refuse to see it, refuse to acknowledge and accept its power, it wins. In horrifically devious ways.

All the above is Jung's theory, which as I said makes sense to me. It might make no sense at all to you. But if it seems all wrong to you, that could mean you are in denial. Or not.

(This could also go under psychology. However, Jung was a spiritual psychologist so I think it can also go here.)

Oh and this subject was also written about by the psychiatrist M. Scott Peck, in People of the Lie, which is about demonic possession.
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Old 11-06-2018, 03:39 PM
 
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I believe in Jung's concept of the shadow. It could be all wrong, it is not the kind of thing you can prove, but it makes sense to me.

According to Jung, EVERYONE has a shadow. It is any part of our minds that we try to deny and ignore. The more you deny and ignore the shadow, the more powerful it becomes.

So if you perceive yourself as a basically loving and kind person, watch out! If you say you don't envy or compete with anyone, and you have no sense of pride, you could be deep in denial.

Do you find that although all your intentions are basically good, and everything you do is primarily to help others, yet people around you seem to have a lot of troubles?

Do you find that even though all your motives are loving, people around you seem to not be very appreciative of that fact?

Do you ever feel judgmental of others, because they do not seem to be up to your moral standards?

Well, just maybe you and your shadow are not at peace with each other. Why should you be at peace with something as dark and villainous as the shadow? Because if you refuse to see it, refuse to acknowledge and accept its power, it wins. In horrifically devious ways.

All the above is Jung's theory, which as I said makes sense to me. It might make no sense at all to you. But if it seems all wrong to you, that could mean you are in denial. Or not.

(This could also go under psychology. However, Jung was a spiritual psychologist so I think it can also go here.)

Oh and this subject was also written about by the psychiatrist M. Scott Peck, in People of the Lie, which is about demonic possession.
That was a radio show that my grandfather said that he listened to as a young man....
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:05 PM
 
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That was a radio show that my grandfather said that he listened to as a young man....
"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts and minds of men? -- The Shadow Knows."
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Old 11-06-2018, 05:23 PM
 
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There is also a song by Tool about the shadow.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tja6_h4lT6A
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Old 11-06-2018, 06:50 PM
 
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I believe in Jung's concept of the shadow. It could be all wrong, it is not the kind of thing you can prove, but it makes sense to me.

According to Jung, EVERYONE has a shadow. It is any part of our minds that we try to deny and ignore. The more you deny and ignore the shadow, the more powerful it becomes.

So if you perceive yourself as a basically loving and kind person, watch out! If you say you don't envy or compete with anyone, and you have no sense of pride, you could be deep in denial.

Do you find that although all your intentions are basically good, and everything you do is primarily to help others, yet people around you seem to have a lot of troubles?

Do you find that even though all your motives are loving, people around you seem to not be very appreciative of that fact?

Do you ever feel judgmental of others, because they do not seem to be up to your moral standards?

Well, just maybe you and your shadow are not at peace with each other. Why should you be at peace with something as dark and villainous as the shadow? Because if you refuse to see it, refuse to acknowledge and accept its power, it wins. In horrifically devious ways.

All the above is Jung's theory, which as I said makes sense to me. It might make no sense at all to you. But if it seems all wrong to you, that could mean you are in denial. Or not.

(This could also go under psychology. However, Jung was a spiritual psychologist so I think it can also go here.)

Oh and this subject was also written about by the psychiatrist M. Scott Peck, in People of the Lie, which is about demonic possession.
Actually this was an interview question.

Does an airplane, flying 30,000 feet high, has a shadow?

On a serious note though
EVERONE has a heart too.
So the same theory can be applied to heart? Does the heart know it too?
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Old 11-06-2018, 06:52 PM
 
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Great, another psychology thread posted here.
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Old 11-06-2018, 07:16 PM
 
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Great, another psychology thread posted here.
He did say he sees it as having a spiritual element. Let's see if the conversation leans that way or not.
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Old 11-06-2018, 07:16 PM
 
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"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts and minds of men? -- The Shadow Knows."
Good summary!

Many years ago, probably in the 70s, an area radio show replayed some of those old radio shows, and we listened to them with my parents.
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Old 11-06-2018, 10:05 PM
 
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That was a radio show that my grandfather said that he listened to as a young man....
Oh I know, my title was just a not funny joke.
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Old 11-06-2018, 10:45 PM
 
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What people do not want to understand is that there is a real live soul within them, a person who has lived and died.

This is what the New Testament teaches. Jesus overcoming the strong man of the house.

Is Jesus a man who lived?

Is Jesus an individual soul?

Is it so insane that if we say the spirit of another man like Jesus is inside us?

That is what we claim, and we claim Jesus as the New Adam, beware the old. If Jesus being a New Adam means that it is a spirit inside the body, then the old Adam is also a real individual, the people of Adam. Jesus didn't come to indwell everyone, the helper is sent in his name. Think about that, because this is the reason for studying, know that you will be a spirit whether for the good or the bad.

Jesus comes to be a New Adam to replace the one that is within you. A helper is sent in his name as a person who had also lived and died and this is a king of the East.

Let the reader understand when he actually sees the abomination standing within the Temple, HE IS THE TEMPLE.

Go forth to death, and if you don't know acknowledge that you have to overcome, how will you overcome? Go forth and die.

Elijah must be taken out of the way, Elisha's head is taken, just as the head of John had to be taken, just as all those souls under the throne beheaded for Christ, Behold, they obtained a new head because they cut their heads off.

LOL, I love that word,'' Behold.''
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