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In the hyper-empirical world view, a person is seen as just a "collection of atoms" and since it is not morally wrong to use, abuse, or manipulate atoms to one's own ends it is, therefore, not thought morally wrong to use, abuse, or manipulate people to one's own ends.
On the face of it, this almost seems reasonable. After all, we are indeed made entirely of atoms (or some other units that can be modeled mathematically). It fails, however, to take into account the emergent phenomena that make a human being so much more than "just atoms". Atoms don't have thoughts, feelings, hopes, dreams, or aspirations but people do. Clearly, being "made of" something (for example atoms) is not the same thing as "being" something.
Hyper-empirical people do not think in terms of right vs wrong but rather in terms of great vs not great.
Story of King Canute:
King Canute set his throne by the sea shore and commanded the incoming tide to halt and not wet his feet and robes. Yet "continuing to rise as usual [the tide] dashed over his feet and legs without respect to his royal person.
Never turn your back on the ocean. Water doesnt play by the rules.
Story of King Canute:
King Canute set his throne by the sea shore and commanded the incoming tide to halt and not wet his feet and robes. Yet "continuing to rise as usual [the tide] dashed over his feet and legs without respect to his royal person.
Never turn your back on the ocean.
A PhD in philosophy student is on the breakfast table with his retired dad who used to sell newspapers.
Mom serves a fried egg in a plate to the son.
He looks at the eggs and goes into some deep thoughts.
He then goes, Dad, do you see this eggs? It’s not one egg. There are actually two eggs. One sits here, and the other one is in your subconscious world deep in your mind that you can perceive if you think deeply and reach to a point of nirvana .. blah blah blah...
Dad, immediately takes the egg from sons plate and eats it all, and tells the son, “you eat the other one”.
Caligula did better, than your king, granpa. He told his soldiers to leash the sea. So they did.
I am suspicious that materialist types around here will tell you that "atoms" (it depends, what you mean by atom though) are exactly what carries human consciousness. They will tell you stories about genetics and how DNA (read - atoms) determine one's "humanity".
In the hyper-empirical world view, a person is seen as just a "collection of atoms" and since it is not morally wrong to use, abuse, or manipulate atoms to one's own ends it is, therefore, not thought morally wrong to use, abuse, or manipulate people to one's own ends.
On the face of it, this almost seems reasonable. After all, we are indeed made entirely of atoms (or some other units that can be modeled mathematically). It fails, however, to take into account the emergent phenomena that make a human being so much more than "just atoms". Atoms don't have thoughts, feelings, hopes, dreams, or aspirations but people do. Clearly, being "made of" something (for example atoms) is not the same thing as "being" something.
Hyper-empirical people do not think in terms of right vs wrong but rather in terms of great vs not great.
The world I perceived was a random, self-sufficient system. It wasn't built; it grew. (When I was little, I thought houses and roads were some kind of large plant that grew out of the ground; if you had told me people made them I would've been thunderstruck).
A PhD in philosophy student is on the breakfast table with his retired dad who used to sell newspapers.
Mom serves a fried egg in a plate to the son.
He looks at the eggs and goes into some deep thoughts.
He then goes, Dad, do you see this eggs? It’s not one egg. There are actually two eggs. One sits here, and the other one is in your subconscious world deep in your mind that you can perceive if you think deeply and reach to a point of nirvana .. blah blah blah...
Dad, immediately takes the egg from sons plate and eats it all, and tells the son, “you eat the other one”.
Moral of the story? The rule of KISS.
Very good. My brain is saying, like Charlie Brown "Wrong, but I don't know where". I suppose that it might be that, just because you can't use a mental concept of a new improved car to drive to work, that doesn't mean that the mental concept of the technical advance is without value. But you might see the lesson differently.
In the hyper-empirical world view, a person is seen as just a "collection of atoms" and since it is not morally wrong to use, abuse, or manipulate atoms to one's own ends it is, therefore, not thought morally wrong to use, abuse, or manipulate people to one's own ends.
On the face of it, this almost seems reasonable. After all, we are indeed made entirely of atoms (or some other units that can be modeled mathematically). It fails, however, to take into account the emergent phenomena that make a human being so much more than "just atoms". Atoms don't have thoughts, feelings, hopes, dreams, or aspirations but people do. Clearly, being "made of" something (for example atoms) is not the same thing as "being" something.
Hyper-empirical people do not think in terms of right vs wrong but rather in terms of great vs not great.
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a person is seen as just a "collection of atoms"
Sometimes hyper-empirical people will avoid the phrase "humans are just atoms" and will instead opt for "humans are just animals". Both phrases express the same underlying idea.
Last edited by mensaguy; 12-13-2018 at 09:11 AM..
Reason: For the 2nd time today, STOP using red text.
This body I am in is made up of atoms....each atom if split would show any one what this body really is...
that I am using, right now, here...
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My brain is saying, like Charlie Brown "Wrong, but I don't know where". I suppose that it might be that, just because you can't use a mental concept of a new improved car to drive to work, that doesn't mean that the mental concept of the technical advance is without value. But you might see the lesson differently.
