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It has long seemed to me that in terms of both tone and substance, the old and new testaments are starkly clashing. I look at the ot and see a book filled with hate, retribution, revenge, murder, etc. I look at the nt and see a book more aligned with love and forgiveness. And it has almost seemed to me as if the writers of the nt said we're gonna make a new start, but we have to make some connections to the ot or lose the old crowd completely. The trouble is, stark changes in a philosophy usually cause drastic upheaval and confusion.
What you are noticing in your post is the turn around that God brings about and fulfills, of which God said before the flood; And it repented the Lord that he had made man on earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And also said; My Spirit will not contend with man forever for he is mortal, his days will be a hundred and twenty years.
Before the flood lawlessness abounded, as you can see that Lamech justified murder by the mercy that God showed Cain after he murdered Abel, as Lamech said; I have killed a man for wounding me, a young man for injuring me. If Cain is avenged seven times, then Lamech seventy-seven times...
...After the flood God makes a Covenant with Noah and establishes law and an accounting on earth.
In the words God shared with Noah after the flood, I see that I am answerable to God, and I love that.
The world can bastardize me all they want, but God doesn't.
What you are noticing in your post is the turn around that God brings about and fulfills, of which God said before the flood; And it repented the Lord that he had made man on earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And also said; My Spirit will not contend with man forever for he is mortal, his days will be a hundred and twenty years.
Before the flood lawlessness abounded, as you can see that Lamech justified murder by the mercy that God showed Cain after he murdered Abel, as Lamech said; I have killed a man for wounding me, a young man for injuring me. If Cain is avenged seven times, then Lamech seventy-seven times...
...After the flood God makes a Covenant with Noah and establishes law and an accounting on earth.
In the words God shared with Noah after the flood, I see that I am answerable to God, and I love that.
The world can bastardize me all they want, but God doesn't.
No, because I don't believe in the flood, or cain and able, or lamech, or noah. So that's not what I'm noticing. I am noticing fable themes.
It has long seemed to me that in terms of both tone and substance, the old and new testaments are starkly clashing. I look at the ot and see a book filled with hate, retribution, revenge, murder, etc. I look at the nt and see a book more aligned with love and forgiveness. And it has almost seemed to me as if the writers of the nt said we're gonna make a new start, but we have to make some connections to the ot or lose the old crowd completely. The trouble is, stark changes in a philosophy usually cause drastic upheaval and confusion.
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Originally Posted by chief scum
What you are noticing in your post is the turn around that God brings about and fulfills, of which God said before the flood; And it repented the Lord that he had made man on earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And also said; My Spirit will not contend with man forever for he is mortal, his days will be a hundred and twenty years.
Before the flood lawlessness abounded, as you can see that Lamech justified murder by the mercy that God showed Cain after he murdered Abel, as Lamech said; I have killed a man for wounding me, a young man for injuring me. If Cain is avenged seven times, then Lamech seventy-seven times...
...After the flood God makes a Covenant with Noah and establishes law and an accounting on earth.
In the words God shared with Noah after the flood, I see that I am answerable to God, and I love that.
The world can bastardize me all they want, but God doesn't.
OR... we could go with the much more obvious, simpler explanation... not requiring any imagination or extrapolation or conjecture or supernatural intervention or suspension of reason or even reliance on ancient tales. Something like "The OT and NT are different because they are different collections of stories, written at different times by different authors for different audiences and different purposes."
OR... we could go with the much more obvious, simpler explanation... not requiring any imagination or extrapolation or conjecture or supernatural intervention or suspension of reason or even reliance on ancient tales. Something like "The OT and NT are different because they are different collections of stories, written at different times by different authors for different audiences and different purposes."
No, it’s an awkward slogan without any meaning. It’s a substitution of one form of mysticism with another. Wooism has the same faults as deism. Just another form of claims with no evidence. In fact, kind of worse, since the assertions and claims are foggy-brained and vague, like believing in ghosts and other nonsense like that. And, repeating a hackneyed slogan in nearly every post does not make it any less ridiculous.
no, it most certifiably is not marc. what these people are experiencing is real, its just not what they think it is.
leave the deity and mystic garbage out. I don't care about that stuff.
what about the system around us describes why people think they are connected to something much larger, smarter, and alive? and is that answer more valid, based on science, than taking your approach where we need to just call it mystic BS?
OR... we could go with the much more obvious, simpler explanation... not requiring any imagination or extrapolation or conjecture or supernatural intervention or suspension of reason or even reliance on ancient tales. Something like "The OT and NT are different because they are different collections of stories, written at different times by different authors for different audiences and different purposes.".
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Originally Posted by phetaroi
As long as we agree it's fiction.
"Do unto others" "thou shalt not steal" "love your neighbor" "thou shalt not commit adultery"
that is fiction?
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