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Old 11-03-2008, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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I came across this while looking through your suggestion:

The Great Central Sun - Ascended Masters Research Center

(Is that similar to your belief of the Central Sun?)

It suddenly dawned on me where it heard it. I am not sure if you have heard of Elizabeth Claire Prophet, but that's where I was exposed to it first. (Sadly I forgot until now, but hey, thanks for reminding me.)
There are many different opinions and projections of the Central Sun, some spiritual, some scientific, some supernatural.

It just makes sense to me in a circular universe that there is a center and in its center a Sun. After all it is the example of every Solar system we know of.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:56 PM
 
Location: in my house
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No house ever built itself. No ant hill ever built itself. There is nothing that builds itself.

Give me an example of something that built itself. Do we have any example of such a thing.
Where do caves, clouds, puddles, rocks come from?
And I suppose if we see jagged edges on mountains we are then to deduce that someone went through and carved them out?

Ridiculous.......just like it is to think that just because something looks so wonderful and dreamy then it must have been created.
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:58 PM
 
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There are many different opinions and projections of the Central Sun, some spiritual, some scientific, some supernatural.

It just makes sense to me in a circular universe that there is a center and in its center a Sun. After all it is the example of every Solar system we know of.

godspeed,

freedom
Now I am a bit more intrigued in your beliefs, but don't worry, not to be argumentative. Do you incorporate some Eastern mysticism in your faith system? And if so, how does that work with your belief in Christianity as the one true faith, if that is what you believe?

I ask because I am interested in Eastern mysticism, though I don't accept it on faith. But things such as Yoga, Meditation, and other topics like Astral Projection are interesting to me. First, to see if they can unlock other states of consciousness, but something that can be scientifically measured. In other words, not the magical-spiritual aspects, but just the physical-spiritual (quantified by science) aspects. And if they don't, it doesn't affect me. I am just intrigued by it.
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Now I am a bit more intrigued in your beliefs, but don't worry, not to be argumentative. Do you incorporate some Eastern mysticism in your faith system? And if so, how does that work with your belief in Christianity as the one true faith, if that is what you believe?

I ask because I am interested in Eastern mysticism, though I don't accept it on faith. But things such as Yoga, Meditation, and other topics like Astral Projection are interesting to me. First, to see if they can unlock other states of consciousness, but something that can be scientifically measured. In other words, not the magical-spiritual aspects, but just the physical-spiritual (quantified by science) aspects. And if they don't, it doesn't affect me. I am just intrigued by it.
Every seeker finds some truth, the difference from one to the other, is do they seek until they find, and how much desire is behind the seeking.

I don't get hung up on labels or organizations. What are the results and realities of one's walk? That is where truth reveals itself.

Biblical scriptures say, Ye shall know them by their fruits.

All seeking beliefs have a tree as the symbol of wisdom, truth and maturity.

These symbolic trees have fruit. We are the branches of the tree, we are one with the Tree, helping to produce good fruit or no fruit.

I ask myself, what kind of branch am i.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:57 PM
 
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Every seeker finds some truth, the difference from one to the other, is do they seek until they find, and how much desire is behind the seeking.

I don't get hung up on labels or organizations. What are the results and realities of one's walk? That is where truth reveals itself.

Biblical scriptures say, Ye shall know them by their fruits.

All seeking beliefs have a tree as the symbol of wisdom, truth and maturity.

These symbolic trees have fruit. We are the branches of the tree, we are one with the Tree, helping to produce good fruit or no fruit.

I ask myself, what kind of branch am i.

godspeed,

freedom
Thanks for sharing.

Ok, we can go back to boxing. (All in good fun.)
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Where do caves, clouds, puddles, rocks come from?
And I suppose if we see jagged edges on mountains we are then to deduce that someone went through and carved them out?

Ridiculous.......just like it is to think that just because something looks so wonderful and dreamy then it must have been created.
Caves come from water, lava, gases etc...
Clouds are formed from pressures, temp. changes, moisture etc...
Puddles are from water, puppies, people....etc...
Rocks are formed from many different things.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:26 AM
 
Location: in my house
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Caves come from water, lava, gases etc...
Clouds are formed from pressures, temp. changes, moisture etc...
Puddles are from water, puppies, people....etc...
Rocks are formed from many different things.

godspeed,

freedom
And they did not require a designer.
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Old 11-04-2008, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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And they did not require a designer.
Actually they did, Water is a design of the proper amounts of Hydrogen and Oxygen, which are elements that were designed as well.

The energies of gravity, heat, and pressure were also part of a designed system.

The masterful work of a supreme being.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 11-04-2008, 07:28 AM
 
Location: UK.
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And they did not require a designer.
Whilst going off on this mythological tangent may be great fun, can't we get back to a some basics here?

At this rate we'll soon by involving ourselves in the age-old debate an how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. I don't see the point of encouraging a fundamentalist Christian to lead us all into such a land fanciful make-believe, entertaining though it is to see how removed his ideas are from scientific reality.

This just isn't serious philosophy.
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Old 11-04-2008, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Whilst going off on this mythological tangent may be great fun, can't we get back to a some basics here?

At this rate we'll soon by involving ourselves in the age-old debate an how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. I don't see the point of encouraging a fundamentalist Christian to lead us all into such a land fanciful make-believe, entertaining though it is to see how removed his ideas are from scientific reality.

This just isn't serious philosophy.
Your personal bias aside, who made you the Philosophy police?

godspeed,

freedom
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