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That depends upon what ones by 'information'. If you mean human assessment and interpretation on sensory input, whether or not conscious or unconscious, then no, it is (for all anyone can show) limited to the human bod, aside from expressing thoughts visually or verbally.
If you mean one object affecting some change or reaction to another, like in growing crystals, ground tremors or DNA, that exchange or transfer of information is indeed everywhere there is matter/energy. But it is neither consciousness nor life (much less a coded language), for all that anyone can demonstrate, beyond more semantic fiddling, theiopologetic equivocation and ID apologetics.
How about a computer analogy before I sign off now?
Consciousness to us humans is something like the robust inner-workings of a super computer; memory, data processor, software. Like how we humans need to be living and breathing, the computer needs to be plugged and running in order for data to be processed. We die, unplug the computer, and all that comes to an end for us and/or the computer.
We die, the computer gets unplugged, and that's it, but obviously what goes on all around us still goes on whether we are here to recognize what is still going on or not. Whatever we were doing, however, is over. Whatever we were thinking or were aware about, thinking we were aware about, no longer continues in any sort of soul or cosmic wavelength sort of way. Nothing of any sort has been found to exist. Just like no evidence of god has been found to exist.
Believe a flame is proof of a soul or our ongoing mental waves and/or god, and then we're talking something else altogether. Whatever that may be, I'm not sure, but calling it science is a bit of a stretch to say the least...
How about a computer analogy before I sign off now?
Consciousness to us humans is something like the robust inner-workings of a super computer; memory, data processor, software. Like how we humans need to be living and breathing, the computer needs to be plugged and running in order for data to be processed. We die, unplug the computer, and all that comes to an end for us and/or the computer.
We die, the computer gets unplugged, and that's it, but obviously what goes on all around us still goes on whether we are here to recognize what is still going on or not. Whatever we were doing, however, is over. Whatever we were thinking or were aware about, thinking we were aware about, no longer continues in any sort of soul or cosmic wavelength sort of way. Nothing of any sort has been found to exist. Just like no evidence of god has been found to exist.
Believe a flame is proof of a soul or our ongoing mental waves and/or god, and then we're talking something else altogether. Whatever that may be, I'm not sure, but calling it science is a bit of a stretch to say the least...
Some minds have limited scope and a paucity of imagination which makes the contemplation of alternate conceptions of Reality virtually impossible for them. Limiting our understanding of Reality to such minds is hardly prudent. A computer is neither alive NOR conscious making it a useless analogy.
Some minds have limited scope and a paucity of imagination which makes the contemplation of alternate conceptions of Reality virtually impossible for them. Limiting our understanding of Reality to such minds is hardly prudent. A computer is neither alive NOR conscious making it a useless analogy.
Seems you also don't know how to understand an analogy...
That you're "mixing apples and oranges" doesn't mean you're actually talking about fruit.
Some minds have limited scope and a paucity of imagination which makes the contemplation of alternate conceptions of Reality virtually impossible for them. Limiting our understanding of Reality to such minds is hardly prudent. A computer is neither alive NOR conscious making it a useless analogy.
Its not useless at all. In fact, its pretty good. Its not perfect, but its good.
Take apart a computer and we find nothing that resembles pictures, images, or even this discussion. Let alone ones that evolve over time.
But they are there. Infact, when somebody "lacks belief" that the pictures, video, and discussion are there, they are "lacking belief" for some other reason than thinking "more" logically then those of us that say the discussion is there.
Its not useless at all. In fact, its pretty good. Its not perfect, but its good.
Take apart a computer and we find nothing that resembles pictures, images, or even this discussion. Let alone ones that evolve over time.
But they are there. Infact, when somebody "lacks belief" that the pictures, video, and discussion are there, they are "lacking belief" for some other reason than thinking "more" logically then those of us that say the discussion is there.
I didn't think the computer analogy was too bad either...
How much like us, our bodies and thought processes are limited to when we're alive, not much data computation or much of anything else goes on outside the computer after it's unplugged...
I agree, but I'd modify that to "sense" rather than "feeling". Feeling implies emotion. Sense is more of an awareness.
The personal “proof” for most people is the experience of it. It is experientiall — in the same way love is or compassion. You can’t PROVE there is such a thing as “love” or “compassion” but those who experience it know it’s true.
Same for spirit and spiritual relationships - it is experienced personally. It can be experienced as clear awareness through feeling, sensing, emotions, thoughts, and even physically.
The personal “proof” for most people is the experience of it. It is experientiall — in the same way love is or compassion. You can’t PROVE there is such a thing as “love” or “compassion” but those who experience it know it’s true.
Same for spirit and spiritual relationships - it is experienced personally. It can be experienced as clear awareness through feeling, sensing, emotions, thoughts, and even physically.
She has "personal proof." She feels it in her heart. She experiences it, and KNOWS it to be true.
I didn't think the computer analogy was too bad either...
How much like us, our bodies and thought processes are limited to when we're alive, not much data computation or much of anything else goes on outside the computer after it's unplugged...
That is because the computer only mimics what our consciousness does. It does not produce the consciousness it mimics.
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