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Old 01-12-2022, 08:09 PM
 
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Why must god exist? Can someone give me a religious explanation?
Per Advaita Vedanta of Hinduism the ver nature, essence, of Brhman/God is existence.
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Old 01-12-2022, 10:50 PM
 
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No, that is the perspective some of us disagree with/don't believe in.
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The all in perspective...

I really get a kick out of this perspective described by some that basically amounts to all is everything and everything is all. God is all, everything and everything is all, God. Nothing is not God and everything else is God too. Oneness, twoness and threeness as well. All there is and there is nothing else. Also as defined in the dictionary...

Who can argue with something like this?
It's the "ALL God Show", all the time! TA-DAAAAAAA!!
Your "disagreement" & "getting a kick out of this"...that's God too!!.. just like anything & everything else.
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Old 01-13-2022, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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It's the "ALL God Show", all the time! TA-DAAAAAAA!!
Your "disagreement" & "getting a kick out of this"...that's God too!!.. just like anything & everything else.
I hate to think of all the evil in the world that you attribute to god under the above line of thinking.
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Old 01-13-2022, 08:53 AM
 
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The immediate, unsurprising ignorant jump to “god is the evil one” must bring some comfort to some minds that will ever be clouded.
The god factor is just existence and consciousness. The action factor is humans that have motives and desires and tendencies created by the two. Those are the only two factors and they are separate. There is no evil, just consequences that attach to actions.
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Old 01-13-2022, 09:04 AM
 
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I hate to think of all the evil in the world that you attribute to god under the above line of thinking.
I know you think this is some kind of "Gotcha" statement...and you, et al, make it often...claiming I endorse "bigotry" & "evil" in general by simply noting "How Things Are".

The concepts "Evil" & "Good" are human constructs and are subjective. Many claim "judging others" is evil....so...
Things just are what they are...and everything is how it is. And it's ALL God.
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Old 01-13-2022, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I know you think this is some kind of "Gotcha" statement...and you, et al, make it often...claiming I endorse "bigotry" & "evil" in general by simply noting "How Things Are".

The concepts "Evil" & "Good" are human constructs and are subjective. Many claim "judging others" is evil....so...
Things just are what they are...and everything is how it is. And it's ALL God.
No, it's not a gotcha statement. But I've heard too many people say the same sort of thing, but then backtrack when one points out that "everything" is not peace and love. They want it both ways.
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Old 01-13-2022, 09:07 AM
 
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The immediate, unsurprising ignorant jump to “god is the evil one” must bring some comfort to some minds that will ever be clouded.
The god factor is just existence and consciousness. The action factor is humans that have motives and desires and tendencies created by the two. Those are the only two factors and they are separate. There is no evil, just consequences that attach to actions.
This ^^^^ is a good explanation.
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Old 01-13-2022, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Germany
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The immediate, unsurprising ignorant jump to “god is the evil one” must bring some comfort to some minds that will ever be clouded.
Lol, ironically accuses someone else of having a clouded mind while not understanding the point being made.

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The god factor is just existence and consciousness. The action factor is humans that have motives and desires and tendencies created by the two. Those are the only two factors and they are separate. There is no evil, just consequences that attach to actions.
The point that was made is if god is all, then it is both the good and bad. That includes germs, diseases, kilometer wide life threatening lumps of rock flying through space, earthquakes, and other things that are not a consequence of human actions.
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Old 01-13-2022, 09:17 AM
 
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Earthquakes and covid dont have motives and desires. It is a strange deluded mind that attributes evil to natural phenomenon. Sorry, there is no Santa Clause God that brings gifts to good boys and charcoal to naughty ones. Grow up.
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Old 01-13-2022, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Default ^when one can not admit they were wrong

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Earthquakes and covid dont have motives and desires.
Really? We never knew.

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It is a strange deluded mind that attributes evil to natural phenomenon.
As no one made that point, one must ask why you made it? Was it a deliberate attack, or just clouded thinking?

Let me explain again. Read this slowly.

WE find some natural things bad because they are bad for us. No one is saying they are in themselves evil.

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Sorry, there is no Santa Clause God that brings gifts to good boys and charcoal to naughty ones.
That would be implicit in what I said, unless one has a clouded mind.

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Grow up.
Lol, misrepresents what I actually said, and then tells me to grow up.

I think our petulant child needs some reading comprehension and logic lessons.
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