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We all know the early Christians were Europeans who had previously been Pagans or Polytheistic.
As a compromise to secure this group and convert them to Christianity, the had to incorporate Pegan traditions, rituals, calendars, etc. that became synonymous with the Christian religion.
Some obvious Pagan traditions Christians adopted are:
Halloween? Where did the costumes come from?
Easter (Celebration of Spring) to death and resurrection of Jesus. Where did the Bunny and eggs come from?
Christmas tree? Pegan origins?
Roman calendar named after the Roman Gods.
What else?
Santa Claus/St. Nicholas- Is this a combination of honoring a Catholic Saint with Pegan Winter rituals?
St. Valentine's Day- I think Catholic but is it?
St. Patrick's Day- A Catholic Saint but does it share Pegan traditions?
The encyclopedias are filled with info on the pagan false god worship additives into the worlds celebrations. Jesus taught to be no part of this world. As well 1Cor 10:21--teaches- one cannot partake off of Gods table and the table of demons. Many are being mislead into doing both. But to God no matter what one thinks they are doing for him counts 0 if they as well partake off the table of demons.
In the chaldean rites of spring-The false Goddess associaiated with that holiday( dyed eggs of Pasch-hot cross buns)=Astarte( beltis) the queen of heaven=Ishtar. pronounced-easter.
The saturnalia festival-worship to the son. late december celebration-feasting and the exchanging of gifts. This was turned into christmas.
The encyclopedias are filled with info on the pagan false god worship additives into the worlds celebrations. Jesus taught to be no part of this world. As well 1Cor 10:21--teaches- one cannot partake off of Gods table and the table of demons. Many are being mislead into doing both. But to God no matter what one thinks they are doing for him counts 0 if they as well partake off the table of demons.
In the chaldean rites of spring-The false Goddess associaiated with that holiday( dyed eggs of Pasch-hot cross buns)=Astarte( beltis) the queen of heaven=Ishtar. pronounced-easter.
The saturnalia festival-worship to the son. late december celebration-feasting and the exchanging of gifts. This was turned into christmas.
Do you believe that people celebrating Christmas really believe that they are actually celebrating Saturnalia and the sun (not son)?
Do you believe that people celebrating Easter actually believe they are remembering Isthar instead of the crucifixion and resurrection?
Hint: It is impossible to celebrate something of which you have no knowledge.
It doesn't matter what the encyclopedia says about the origins. Christians celebrating Christmas and Easter are celebrating Jesus. Those nut cases at the Watchtower have filled your head with garbage.
Do you believe that people celebrating Christmas really believe that they are actually celebrating Saturnalia and the sun (not son)?
Do you believe that people celebrating Easter actually believe they are remembering Isthar instead of the crucifixion and resurrection?
Hint: It is impossible to celebrate something of which you have no knowledge.
It doesn't matter what the encyclopedia says about the origins. Christians celebrating Christmas and Easter are celebrating Jesus. Those nut cases are the Watchtower have filled your head with garbage.
I don't know how ANY SANE AND INTELLIGENT person can believe that we can celebrate ANYTHING we do NOT INTEND to celebrate!!! It is absurdly preposterous even to consider it!!! You can NOT unintentionally celebrate or worship what you do not intend to celebrate or worship.
Do you believe that people celebrating Christmas really believe that they are actually celebrating Saturnalia and the sun (not son)?
Do you believe that people celebrating Easter actually believe they are remembering Isthar instead of the crucifixion and resurrection?
Hint: It is impossible to celebrate something of which you have no knowledge.
It doesn't matter what the encyclopedia says about the origins. Christians celebrating Christmas and Easter are celebrating Jesus. Those nut cases are the Watchtower have filled your head with garbage.
Well...yes and no.
The family (both sides) were all (but one) christians, and the celebration of Christmas was pretty much all secular, as was the celebration of Easter.
In Thailand, the big stores and malls were all decorated for Christmas, even though christians make up less than 1% of the population (about 96% Buddhist and 3% Muslim). My Thai friends always did something for Christmas, as did my Muslim friends here in the States. I always celebrated Thai holidays even when I wasn't clear what they were for.
We all know the early Christians were Europeans who had previously been Pagans or Polytheistic.
As a compromise to secure this group and convert them to Christianity, the had to incorporate Pegan traditions, rituals, calendars, etc. that became synonymous with the Christian religion.
Some obvious Pagan traditions Christians adopted are:
Halloween? Where did the costumes come from?
Easter (Celebration of Spring) to death and resurrection of Jesus. Where did the Bunny and eggs come from?
Christmas tree? Pegan origins?
Roman calendar named after the Roman Gods.
What else?
Santa Claus/St. Nicholas- Is this a combination of honoring a Catholic Saint with Pegan Winter rituals?
St. Valentine's Day- I think Catholic but is it?
St. Patrick's Day- A Catholic Saint but does it share Pegan traditions?
So?
It was what it was...now it is what it is.
And the Adherents worship/celebrate what they do...each with their own understanding, interpretations, and intentions.
I doubt many (if any) current Christians are thinking along the lines of a Pagan vibe when they worship/celebrate their Beliefs/Faith.
Do you believe that people celebrating Christmas really believe that they are actually celebrating Saturnalia and the sun (not son)?
Do you believe that people celebrating Easter actually believe they are remembering Isthar instead of the crucifixion and resurrection?
Hint: It is impossible to celebrate something of which you have no knowledge.
It doesn't matter what the encyclopedia says about the origins. Christians celebrating Christmas and Easter are celebrating Jesus. Those nut cases are the Watchtower have filled your head with garbage.
"Nut cases"..."garbage"?!!!!!
Kinda brutal man! Wow!
But it did crack me up. You've got the shillelagh out today!
The family (both sides) were all (but one) christians, and the celebration of Christmas was pretty much all secular, as was the celebration of Easter.
In Thailand, the big stores and malls were all decorated for Christmas, even though christians make up less than 1% of the population (about 96% Buddhist and 3% Muslim). My Thai friends always did something for Christmas, as did my Muslim friends here in the States. I always celebrated Thai holidays even when I wasn't clear what they were for.
My Christian friend from Ghana said that in her country, the 12 days of Christmas are celebrated with endless parties, and the Muslims all join in. At Ramadan, Christians often join in the fasting, although more for health or weight loss reasons. But since friends and coworkers are fasting during the day, some of them do it too.
So?
It was what it was...now it is what it is.
And the Adherents worship/celebrate what they do...each with their own understanding, interpretations, and intentions.
I doubt many (if any) current Christians are thinking along the lines of a Pagan vibe when they worship/celebrate their Beliefs/Faith.
Yeah, I am.often perplexed when people start these threads, as if they are providing some new discovery that everybody doesn't already know.
Some of the lesser-known practices are informative, though. Like wedding rings, which are pagan. SDA Christians don't wear them for that reason.
My Christian friend from Ghana said that in her country, the 12 days of Christmas are celebrated with endless parties, and the Muslims all join in. At Ramadan, Christians often join in the fasting, although more for health or weight loss reasons. But since friends and coworkers are fasting during the day, some of them do it too.
As an atheist I never understood peoples refusal to either recognize or celebrate a holiday that was not their own. For example my late MIL avoided any mention of celebrating Christmas whereas myself as an atheistic Jew went totally alone with it because it was a tradition with the rest of her family. I do not know if the rest of her family beliefvin God nor does it matter.
I see no difference between taking part in a celebration in the holidaybof someone elses religious holiday than taking part inbthe national celebrations of another country or in St Patricks Day though I do not need green beer.
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I don't know how ANY SANE AND INTELLIGENT person can believe that we can celebrate ANYTHING we do NOT INTEND to celebrate!!! It is absurdly preposterous even to consider it!!! You can NOT unintentionally celebrate or worship what you do not intend to celebrate or worship.
