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"In sacrifice and offering you have not delighted, but you have given me an open ear. Burnt offering and sin offering you have not required. Psalm 40:6
Again, how on earth does anyone find even a hint of Jesus in this verse. In fact JUST THE OPPOSITE is stated plainly.
Jesus was a sin offering. Yet the words say that God does NOT require a sin offering.
"In sacrifice and offering you have not delighted, but you have given me an open ear. Burnt offering and sin offering you have not required. Psalm 40:6
Again, how on earth does anyone find even a hint of Jesus in this verse. In fact JUST THE OPPOSITE is stated plainly.
Jesus was a sin offering. Yet the words say that God does NOT require a sin offering.
I have never understood that claim that Jesus was a "sin offering." It fails on so many levels. Not only was he not any of the animals allowed for a sin offering, not only wasn't he physically proper to be an offering of any sort, not only was he not sacrificed in the way required for a sin offering (and not only did a sin offering only help for a very limited and specific type of sins) but some people try to equate him to a Psachal offering which is not a sin offering.
"In sacrifice and offering you have not delighted, but you have given me an open ear. Burnt offering and sin offering you have not required. Psalm 40:6
Again, how on earth does anyone find even a hint of Jesus in this verse. In fact JUST THE OPPOSITE is stated plainly.
Jesus was a sin offering. Yet the words say that God does NOT require a sin offering.
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Originally Posted by rosends
I have never understood that claim that Jesus was a "sin offering." It fails on so many levels. Not only was he not any of the animals allowed for a sin offering, not only wasn't he physically proper to be an offering of any sort, not only was he not sacrificed in the way required for a sin offering (and not only did a sin offering only help for a very limited and specific type of sins) but some people try to equate him to a Psachal offering which is not a sin offering.
I just find the whole thing confusing.
1 Corinthians Ch. 2......No, we speak of God's secret wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had,they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.......
If a sin offering is made without a piercing of the heart, what good is it. David owned what he had done and speaks from a pierced heart. As God said in fulfilling the law, the circumcision of the heart.
1 Corinthians Ch. 2......No, we speak of God's secret wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had,they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.......
If a sin offering is made without a piercing of the heart, what good is it. David owned what he had done and speaks from a pierced heart. As God said in fulfilling the law, the circumcision of the heart.
Whut? That is the most circumbobulated "explanation" I have ever heard/read in my life.
"In sacrifice and offering you have not delighted, but you have given me an open ear. Burnt offering and sin offering you have not required. Psalm 40:6]
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Originally Posted by Bungalove
Whut? That is the most circumbobulated "explanation" I have ever heard/read in my life.
I like what the bolded says and expresses.
Circumcision of the heart is the penetrating and opening of the heart to God.
Here we go again with the old "the Jews hate G-d" trope. This is ridiculous for an intelligent person to even contemplate, but we're dealing with the a particular "believer" here, so...
You think you are making sense? Show where I said "the Jews hate G-d".
Jews without faith were cut off and can only be grafted back in if they don't persist in unbelief in Jesus.
All people, Jews and Gentiles are bound to the same place of condemnation unless they come to God through Jesus.
Romans 11:23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
You think you are making sense? Show where I said "the Jews hate G-d".
Jews without faith were cut off and can only be grafted back in if they don't persist in unbelief in Jesus.
All people, Jews and Gentiles are bound to the same place of condemnation unless they come to God through Jesus.
Romans 11:23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
In your post #754 you said "The Jews who reject Jesus go by the Talmud. I don't try to get knowledge from those who "go against" G-d and His Son Jesus Christ." So "go against" doesn't mean hate in any fashion?
Perfect. Thank you for confirming that forgiveness came to David without his offering any sacrifice.
Under the law David would have been put to death.
David being saved by confessing his sins to God and being forgiven was a glimpse at the coming salvation through Jesus.
Even though David was forgiven without an animal sacrifice, for which there was none for his sins to give, he said after he repented and is forgiven he will give sacrifices.
God didn't like it when the Jews would sin---not really be sorry for their sins and actually keep sinning---yet give sin offering.
God spoke of the new covenant that He would make one day, through faith.
Jesus cleans us of the sins he knows if we are truly sorry for them.
Psalm 51
14Deliver me from bloodguiltiness, O God, thou God of my salvation: and my tongue shall sing aloud of thy righteousness.
15O Lord, open thou my lips; and my mouth shall shew forth thy praise.
16For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
17The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
18Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem. 19Then shalt thou be pleased with the sacrifices of righteousness, with burnt offering and whole burnt offering: then shall they offer bullocks upon thine altar.
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