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Old 06-06-2023, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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I often have a hard time fathoming the existence of people such as yourself in 2023. It's just such an anachronism
Conforming to your sensibilities is not among my primary motivations in life.
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:38 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Atheism has no political affinity. I have met atheists who are conservatives and libertarians, etc. Also many who work hard for the benefit and preservation of democracy.

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Atheism absolutely does have a political affinity - that being anti-Catholic.

Have you ever met an atheist who believes in Catholic monarchy or Catholic republicanism?
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Atheism is only the disbelief in the existence of God (or any god). Why should a person who does not believe God exists believe in a Catholic monarchy (whatever that is) or Catholic republicanism (whatever that is)?
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I'm glad to see that you agree with me that atheism does have a political affinity - that affinity being away from the Kingship of Christ.
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I absolutely, positively, do not agree with you.
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Then you and your atheist friends should have no problem acknowledging that Christ is King, and submitting to His rule.

This is getting ridiculous. What I believe is irrelevant. You keep trying to impose beliefs on atheists that none of them have ever claimed to hold.



If a person believes that God does not exist (by definition an atheist, it would be completely impossible for that person to acknowledge that Christ is King, or even that He is the Son of God. Of course, they wouldn't submit to something that they believe doesn't exist.


You really aren't making any sense today. However, it would be a reasonable guess that you have turned a number of people against Catholicism. Congratulations.
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:43 PM
 
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A lot of time can be wasted trying to get a bird to live like a frog.
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:46 PM
 
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This is getting ridiculous. What I believe is irrelevant. You keep trying to impose beliefs on atheists that none of them have ever claimed to hold.



If a person believes that God does not exist (by definition an atheist, it would be completely impossible for that person to acknowledge that Christ is King, or even that He is the Son of God. Of course, they wouldn't submit to something that they believe doesn't exist.


You really aren't making any sense today. However, it would be a reasonable guess that you have turned a number of people against Catholicism. Congratulations.
Just because basic logic is outside the realm of your understanding, does not mean that I'm not "making any sense today".

I made one single, solitary point, which you proved -- that point being that atheism does have a political affinity. I'm not sure why this is so difficult for you to see.

If atheism explicitly rejects the Kingship of Christ (and it does), then it has a political affinity - that of the rejection of Christ's Kingship. If you disagree with that, then you're just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing.
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Old 06-06-2023, 01:06 PM
 
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Just because basic logic is outside the realm of your understanding, does not mean that I'm not "making any sense today".

I made one single, solitary point, which you proved -- that point being that atheism does have a political affinity. I'm not sure why this is so difficult for you to see.

If atheism explicitly rejects the Kingship of Christ (and it does), then it has a political affinity - that of the rejection of Christ's Kingship. If you disagree with that, then you're just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing.

The Kingship of Jesus is irrelevant to politics. As has been shown many times, there are conservative and liberal Christians, and there are conservative and liberal atheists. Believing in God, or not believing in God does not define one's politics.
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Old 06-06-2023, 01:10 PM
 
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The Kingship of Jesus is irrelevant to politics. As has been shown many times, there are conservative and liberal Christians, and there are conservative and liberal atheists. Believing in God, or not believing in God does not define one's politics.
When Christ is again rightfully enthroned as King with a Catholic monarch serving as His vicar, then we'll see how "irrelevant to politics" you think it is.
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Old 06-06-2023, 01:29 PM
 
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When Christ is again rightfully enthroned as King with a Catholic monarch serving as His vicar, then we'll see how "irrelevant to politics" you think it is.

Funniest post of the week.
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Old 06-06-2023, 02:28 PM
 
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Atheism absolutely does have a political affinity - that being anti-Catholic.

Have you ever met an atheist who believes in Catholic monarchy or Catholic republicanism?
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I'm glad to see that you agree with me that atheism does have a political affinity - that affinity being away from the Kingship of Christ.
You are misusing the term 'affinity.' When one thing has an affinity with another thing or a person has an affinity with another person there are shared characteristics between them which draw them together. You cannot therefore have an affinity AGAINST something or someone.

You cannot have an affinity away from something, i.e., from the Kingship of Christ. You might want to find a different term.

Also . . . you are being ridiculous.
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Old 06-06-2023, 03:43 PM
 
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Atheism absolutely does have a political affinity - that being anti-Catholic.
Have you ever met an atheist who believes in Catholic monarchy or Catholic republicanism?
It is an AFFINITY TO personal freedom and responsibility and an AVERSION to theocracy, monarchy, or Kingship of any kind, IMO.
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Old 06-06-2023, 04:26 PM
 
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It is an AFFINITY TO personal freedom and responsibility and an AVERSION to theocracy, monarchy, or Kingship of any kind, IMO.

While I would assume at atheism would create [at least somewhat] an aversion to theocracy, how did you come to the conclusion that it creates an aversion or monarchy or kingship and an affinity for personal freedom?
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