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Old 03-18-2009, 12:09 AM
 
Location: southern california
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That's kind of like saying left-handedness is expressly forbidden. Doesn't really make sense.
hey wait a minute im left handed.

 
Old 03-18-2009, 12:12 AM
 
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hey wait a minute im left handed.
Watch out. There is probably some wierd religion out there that wants to kill you for being different.
 
Old 03-18-2009, 12:17 AM
 
Location: southern california
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Watch out. There is probably some wierd religion out there that wants to kill you for being different.
yep i suspected it when the gal was staring at my arm when i opened the door for her today. thanks for watchin my back.
 
Old 03-18-2009, 04:39 AM
 
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After homosexualism then what will be acceptable? Having sex with your parents? With your pet? There has to be boundaries in society.

Islam, Christianity & Judaism expressly prohibit same-sex relationships. From Islam :
Islam teaches that homosexual acts are sinful and punishable by God. This teaching comes not from human beings, but from the Creator of all humans. God tells us in His own words how He punished the people of Lot for their homosexual behaviour.
The story of prophet Lot, on whom be peace, finds mention in several Qur'anic passages, especially Chapter 26:160-175 which reads: "The people of Lut rejected the apostles. Behold, their brother Lut said to them: "Will ye not fear (God)? "I am to you an apostle worthy of all trust. "So fear God and obey me. "No reward do I ask of you for it: my reward is only from the lord of the Worlds. "Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males, "And leave those whom God has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing (all limits)!" They said: "If thou desist not, O Lut! thou wilt assuredly be cast out!" He said: "I do detest your doings." "O my Lord! deliver me and my family from such things as they do!" So We delivered him and his family,- all Except an old woman who lingered behind. But the rest We destroyed utterly. We rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who were admonished (but heeded not)! Verily in this is a Sign: but most of them do not believe. And verily thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might Most Merciful."
 
Old 03-18-2009, 05:09 AM
 
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After homosexualism then what will be acceptable? Having sex with your parents? With your pet? There has to be boundaries in society.
Well that's just silly.

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Islam, Christianity & Judaism expressly prohibit same-sex relationships. From Islam :
Islam teaches that homosexual acts are sinful and punishable by God. This teaching comes not from human beings, but from the Creator of all humans. God tells us in His own words how He punished the people of Lot for their homosexual behaviour.
The story of prophet Lot, on whom be peace, finds mention in several Qur'anic passages, especially Chapter 26:160-175 which reads: "The people of Lut rejected the apostles. Behold, their brother Lut said to them: "Will ye not fear (God)? "I am to you an apostle worthy of all trust. "So fear God and obey me. "No reward do I ask of you for it: my reward is only from the lord of the Worlds. "Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males, "And leave those whom God has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing (all limits)!" They said: "If thou desist not, O Lut! thou wilt assuredly be cast out!" He said: "I do detest your doings." "O my Lord! deliver me and my family from such things as they do!" So We delivered him and his family,- all Except an old woman who lingered behind. But the rest We destroyed utterly. We rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who were admonished (but heeded not)! Verily in this is a Sign: but most of them do not believe. And verily thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might Most Merciful."
Interesting how the story of Lot and Sodom and Gomorrah has changed from the Jewish story to the Christian story to the Islamic story over time.

Does the Islamic version still have Lot offering up his two virgin daughters to be gang-raped by the mob? Is there anything left of the original Jewish story which was mainly about inhospitality to strangers in Abrahamic times?
 
Old 03-18-2009, 05:36 AM
 
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hey wait a minute im left handed.
I don't agree with left-handedness. It is a sinful lifestyle and clearly unnatural and against God's wishes. You even want to teach our children in schools that the left-handed lifestyle is okay. Well it's not. You left-handers want to prey upon young children to make them left-handed just like you. It's sickening and disgusting. What's next? People will be using their mouths or their noses or even their feet if we allow the left-handed agenda to have their way.

But I don't hate you. I love you. I just hate the sin of left-handedness.

Don't you know that left-handers will not be accepted into the kingdom of heaven? But don't despair. Lefthandedness is a lifestyle choice and if you pray really really hard, God will help you to choose the righteous natural righthanded lifestyle. See? even the word "righteous" has the word "right" in it. That's because right-handedness is "right" and lefthandedness is wrong. God is "righteous" not "lefteous".

I will pray for you to see the light and the right of righthandedness.

Go in Pieces.

J
 
Old 03-18-2009, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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This is 100% correct. I am not 100% sure where I stand on the Biblical passages against homosexuality, but many fundamentalist Christians are so repelled by the thought of being with somebody of their own sex that they make it into some super-sin when Biblically it is really no worse than those little white lies you tell all the time and think nothing of. I have heard many preachers say things like homosexuality is worse than murder, or when somebody has same sex attraction that means they are in the deepest depravity possible for a human being, and can no longer be redeemed. This type of distortion to fit is why so many gay teens and young adults, especially those in conservative families or conservative small towns, attempt suicide.

I completely agree. This kind of attitude is not only sanctimonious it is DANGEROUS and leads to young people attempting suicide or going into deep depression . Self Denial is dangerous because who you truly are always come back to the surface.

Having to live with guilt and moral and mental slef flagellation must be awful.
Especially guilt which is not borne out out of a personal feeling but one imposed by people poiting the fingers and trying to impress their beliefs on others.

The thing I will never understand is why people think it OK to denounce others . Nobody is forcing them into Gay relationships and sex so quite frankly it is none of their business.

They are entitled to feeling distaste but no right to try and impose those feelings to others. As long as it does not hurt someone then live with it.

Time for some people to grow up and realise that we humans come in a variety of shapes and forms, sexualities, beliefs, ideologies, colours and races.

Someone's truth is not necessarily another's.

If Homosexuality is so repellent to you then don't practice it. Pure and simple.


If there is a God and he /she is enough of a jerk to judge his/her children for making them the way they are then maybe one should leave the judgement to Him/Her. Keepit zipped until eternal judgement day. Surely then your deity/supreme being will enact his vengeance with enough potency to make it obsolete for all this hatres, intolerance and bigotry on earth.
 
Old 03-18-2009, 05:52 AM
 
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Well that's just silly.



Interesting how the story of Lot and Sodom and Gomorrah has changed from the Jewish story to the Christian story to the Islamic story over time.

Does the Islamic version still have Lot offering up his two virgin daughters to be gang-raped by the mob? Is there anything left of the original Jewish story which was mainly about inhospitality to strangers in Abrahamic times?
In the Quran, unlike the bible or torah, all the Prophets are sinless thus no committing of incest by Lot, no adultery by David and no apostacy by Solomon. It makes sense right that only a person whose character and morals are of good value gets that role
 
Old 03-18-2009, 05:57 AM
 
Location: South Africa
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I don't agree with left-handedness. It is a sinful lifestyle and clearly unnatural and against God's wishes. You even want to teach our children in schools that the left-handed lifestyle is okay. Well it's not. You left-handers want to prey upon young children to make them left-handed just like you. It's sickening and disgusting. What's next? People will be using their mouths or their noses or even their feet if we allow the left-handed agenda to have their way.

But I don't hate you. I love you. I just hate the sin of left-handedness.

Don't you know that left-handers will not be accepted into the kingdom of heaven? But don't despair. Lefthandedness is a lifestyle choice and if you pray really really hard, God will help you to choose the righteous natural righthanded lifestyle. See? even the word "righteous" has the word "right" in it. That's because right-handedness is "right" and lefthandedness is wrong. God is "righteous" not "lefteous".

I will pray for you to see the light and the right of righthandedness.

Go in Pieces.

J
Gotta first spread some that ghey luv around
 
Old 03-18-2009, 06:21 AM
 
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In the Quran, unlike the bible or torah, all the Prophets are sinless thus no committing of incest by Lot, no adultery by David and no apostacy by Solomon. It makes sense right that only a person whose character and morals are of good value gets that role
Sounds something like how Hollywood wrote Cowboy and Indian movies in the 50's where all the Cowboys wore white hats and never did anything bad.
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