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Old 05-04-2009, 01:15 PM
 
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Nothing comes about without a creator? ok fine. let's call that a rule according to you.

1. where did God come from?

2. what was God doing before he created the heaven and the earth?

3. Where was God before he created the universe in which he's in right now?

and if you answered the above 3 questions...

4. HOW DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS?
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Nothing comes about without a creator? ok fine. let's call that a rule according to you.

1. where did God come from?

2. what was God doing before he created the heaven and the earth?

3. Where was God before he created the universe in which he's in right now?

and if you answered the above 3 questions...

4. HOW DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS?
You are the only one who can provide the correct answer. Any one can answer those but it will be with their own interpretation.
As with all things, take them to God and really listen to what He tells you. This answer will come through your soul perception if you still your mind and listen to the still small voice of God within.
If I give you my answers, as well as anyone else giving theirs, you will still have questions because you must satisfy your own mind and heart.
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:24 PM
 
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You are the only one who can provide the correct answer. Any one can answer those but it will be with their own interpretation.
As with all things, take them to God and really listen to what He tells you. This answer will come through your soul perception if you still your mind and listen to the still small voice of God within.
If I give you my answers, as well as anyone else giving theirs, you will still have questions because you must satisfy your own mind and heart.
try me!
answer the questions that YOU believe are true, and lets see if more questions remain.
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Ok.

1. God always has been in the center of Paradise, or Hovana. He was alone, with no one beside Him. He is the Alpha and Omega, Literally.
The Creator covers himself with light as with a garment and stretches out the heavens as a curtain.

2 & 3. He was in His home and always has been. He will never leave because then, all the universes would cease to exist, along with all creatures. He was alone and wanted to get creative so He started creating all the souls. These souls range from Creator sons on down to creature forms (inhabitants of all the planets). Now He is no longer alone. He has all of His children with Him at all times. All the Creator sons created the universes and God gave them permission to run them. That is why Jesus was able to proclaim that "God gave them to me." He is a creator son.


Those are simple explanations but I can go deeper if you want.
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:39 PM
 
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Ok.

1. God always has been in the center of Paradise, or Hovana. He was alone, with no one beside Him. He is the Alpha and Omega, Literally.
The Creator covers himself with light as with a garment and stretches out the heavens as a curtain.

2 & 3. He was in His home and always has been. He will never leave because then, all the universes would cease to exist, along with all creatures. He was alone and wanted to get creative so He started creating all the souls. These souls range from Creator sons on down to creature forms (inhabitants of all the planets). Now He is no longer alone. He has all of His children with Him at all times. All the Creator sons created the universes and God gave them permission to run them. That is why Jesus was able to proclaim that "God gave them to me." He is a creator son.


Those are simple explanations but I can go deeper if you want.
you said that "God always has been in the center of Paradise..."
but you argue that nothing can exist without a creator! so how can God have "always been there"?
where did he come from? who created God?
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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See? More questions.

God can exist but nothing else can. The creator sons created the universes. Without God, they would not exist. God has always been here. He has always existed. He is the Alpha and Omega.


Take the questions to God as I have explained in the first post. He is real and He will answer you in a way that you will understand. He will show you a book, a sign, or even send a person to tell you your answers. All you gotta do is have an open mind and let your heart be your guide. Your mind will not give you what you need because it doen't know the difference from a lie or a truth. God is the only one who can answer your questions because it is Him that was in the beginning..
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:18 PM
 
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See? More questions.
yes, i ask more questions because your responses are ridiculous!
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Old 05-04-2009, 04:07 PM
 
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1. where did the universe come from?

2. what was the universe before anything ever existed?

3. Where was the universe before the universe ever existed?

and if you answered the above 3 questions...

4. HOW DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS?

Better yet..

"Did light create darkness? Did eternity create time? Did love create fear? Did guilt come from innocence? Did formless create form? Did perfection create imperfection? Did the Spirit of God create the flesh of human? Did what is whole create something incomplete? "
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Old 05-04-2009, 04:27 PM
 
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1. where did the universe come from?

2. what was the universe before anything ever existed?

3. Where was the universe before the universe ever existed?

and if you answered the above 3 questions...

4. HOW DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS?

Better yet..

"Did light create darkness? Did eternity create time? Did love create fear? Did guilt come from innocence? Did formless create form? Did perfection create imperfection? Did the Spirit of God create the flesh of human? Did what is whole create something incomplete? "
Hmm, we do not know the answers to those questions. Shall we try to find those answers using the following method?

  1. Define the question
  2. Gather information and resources (observe)
  3. Form hypothesis
  4. Perform experiment and collect data
  5. Analyze data
  6. Interpret data and draw conclusions that serve as a starting point for new hypothesis
  7. Publish results
  8. Retest (frequently done by other scientists)



Do you have any issues with this method?
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Old 05-04-2009, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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slashsdfz wrote:
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1. where did the universe come from?

2. what was the universe before anything ever existed?

3. Where was the universe before the universe ever existed?

and if you answered the above 3 questions...

4. HOW DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS?

Better yet..

"Did light create darkness? Did eternity create time? Did love create fear? Did guilt come from innocence? Did formless create form? Did perfection create imperfection? Did the Spirit of God create the flesh of human? Did what is whole create something incomplete?
For questions 1,2, and 3 the answer is we don't know which negates the answer to question 4.
The "Better yet" portion of your post doesn't make much sense. It sounds like you were just trying to throw together a bunch of concepts that really didn't have anything to do with each other. Maybe if you just took one of them and tried to expand upon what you're really trying to say I could respond. For example your question "did light create darkness" is an unintelligible question. Light is the opposite of darkness and when you flip on the light switch at night the light suddenly shines on what was dark a second earlier so I don't have a clue how light could have created darkness.
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