Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Then there's the other side of the coin. There are those who are biblically illiterate yet still vehemently believe. THey have no clue as to the context or cultural setting that many of the bible stories are written. They do not know what the originals in Hebrew or Greek actually mean. They merely parrot what they are told by their pastors and are too damn lazy to research it themselves.
Raise your hands if you're surprised. Yeah, yeah, yeah...First Timothy 4.
================================================== ================================================== ==============
“The Christian body in America is immersed in a crisis of biblical illiteracy,” warns researcher George Barna. “How else can you describe matters when most churchgoing adults reject the accuracy of the Bible, reject the existence of Satan, claim that Jesus sinned, see no need to evangelize, believe that good works are one of the keys to persuading God to forgive their sins, and describe their commitment to Christianity as moderate or even less firm?”
This really is nothing new. This has been the case since whenever. The masses of Christian have always been pretty ignorant of the Bible's contents. Sure, they might know the Twenty-Third Psalm, the Lord's Prayer, a few cute biblical stories (even if they don't know where to find them in the Bible) and what is the first and last book, but actually KNOWING the bible? That's another story. This, however, has not stopped some from telling others, who might actually know the Bible, that they are wrong, lost, misguided and rebellious to "the truth."
Back in my Christian days, I used to do a weekly bible quiz. Lots of fun that was. One part of the quiz was the bible book and verse search. Participants were required to hold their bible in the air. I would then call out a book and verse and it was their job to pull down their bibles and start scouring through it to find the book and verse. First one to it to read it won the point. Well, every now and again, I would say something like, "Hezekiah chapter 14 verse 84" or "Elijah 19 verse 5" and watch the participants breaking their necks to find those books.
Hey,this just tells me that people are starting to think for themselves and are becoming a little more intelligent and skeptical and are not relying on any sacred book to tell them what to do or how to do it. You see that's one of the things that religion is afraid of, intelligent people who can think for themselves...
Well, the Scriptures told us this day would come. As stated in 2 Timothy chapter 4, verses 3 and 4.
because the time will come when people will not listen to the true teaching but will find many more teachers who please them by saying the things they want to hear. They will stop listening to the truth and will begin to follow false stories.
The Biblical account just accurately states what will be. If the oppsite had occured, then the Biblical account would of been considered wrong. Yet here again, the Bible tells us this was to be expected.
Well, the Scriptures told us this day would come. As stated in 2 Timothy chapter 4, verses 3 and 4.
because the time will come when people will not listen to the true teaching but will find many more teachers who please them by saying the things they want to hear. They will stop listening to the truth and will begin to follow false stories.
The Biblical account just accurately states what will be. If the oppsite had occured, then the Biblical account would of been considered wrong. Yet here again, the Bible tells us this was to be expected.
And here is a prime example of what the OP is talking about...
Well, the Scriptures told us this day would come. As stated in 2 Timothy chapter 4, verses 3 and 4.
because the time will come when people will not listen to the true teaching but will find many more teachers who please them by saying the things they want to hear. They will stop listening to the truth and will begin to follow false stories.
The Biblical account just accurately states what will be. If the oppsite had occured, then the Biblical account would of been considered wrong. Yet here again, the Bible tells us this was to be expected.
Actually, no. If something doesn't happen it suddenly becomes an symbolic passage that is twisted from its original meaning. Those who want to believe will find any verse they can that "supports" their view. This is why we have so many sects of Christianity and interpretations of the scripture.
Classic example. "This generation will not pass...". This is why i shudder when I hear "study the Bible in light of other scripture"... the individual ends up making a "Super gospel" which fits their needs and the original intent of the author is lost.
Actually, no. If something doesn't happen it suddenly becomes an symbolic passage that is twisted from its original meaning. Those who want to believe will find any verse they can that "supports" their view. This is why we have so many sects of Christianity and interpretations of the scripture.
Classic example. "This generation will not pass...". This is why i shudder when I hear "study the Bible in light of other scripture"... the individual ends up making a "Super gospel" which fits their needs and the original intent of the author is lost.
Well, the orginal intent of Jesus was for those of us to (LEARN) the parable of the Fig tree. When parables are given, they are not to be passed over lightly. Yet most of the world does just that, especially when we are speaking of, "This generation will not pass..."
Now, many in the church today I doubt would even be able to give you a reason why Christ spoke in parables. Even in Christ time, the disciples had to asked Him, why do you speak to them in parables? Jesus said, because the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven has been granted to you, but to them it has not been granted.
Another words, Jesus was telling them, there are mysteries out there. Yet for those of us who were not one of Jesus 12 disciples, those mysteries could only be found in the parables. The disciples are openly told about the mysteries, where as the average Joe such as myself, would not be. These mysteries can be found, yet it requires a closer look at what Jesus is telling us. And that requires a closer look at His parables.
So now, not only do we have a world that is unaware of the knowledge of the Bible, we also have numerous churches that are equally as ignorant. And when they read something that involves parables, it means nothing to them. And they continue reading when that parable should be like a red light to them. Jesus knew the average man would not pick up on these parables, and so the parables were placed in the Bible for those who are in harmony with the Biblical God.
Well, the Scriptures told us this day would come. As stated in 2 Timothy chapter 4, verses 3 and 4.
because the time will come when people will not listen to the true teaching but will find many more teachers who please them by saying the things they want to hear. They will stop listening to the truth and will begin to follow false stories.
The Biblical account just accurately states what will be. If the oppsite had occured, then the Biblical account would of been considered wrong. Yet here again, the Bible tells us this was to be expected.
This is classic cult stuff. When someone questions they are told they are "turning away." Of course the Bible says this is to be expected. All cults warn not to question. It's why Christianity is self-perpetuating and the most popular book in the world.
Well, the orginal intent of Jesus was for those of us to (LEARN) the parable of the Fig tree. When parables are given, they are not to be passed over lightly. Yet most of the world does just that, especially when we are speaking of, "This generation will not pass..."
Now, many in the church today I doubt would even be able to give you a reason why Christ spoke in parables. Even in Christ time, the disciples had to asked Him, why do you speak to them in parables? Jesus said, because the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven has been granted to you, but to them it has not been granted.
Another words, Jesus was telling them, there are mysteries out there. Yet for those of us who were not one of Jesus 12 disciples, those mysteries could only be found in the parables. The disciples are openly told about the mysteries, where as the average Joe such as myself, would not be. These mysteries can be found, yet it requires a closer look at what Jesus is telling us. And that requires a closer look at His parables.
So now, not only do we have a world that is unaware of the knowledge of the Bible, we also have numerous churches that are equally as ignorant. And when they read something that involves parables, it means nothing to them. And they continue reading when that parable should be like a red light to them. Jesus knew the average man would not pick up on these parables, and so the parables were placed in the Bible for those who are in harmony with the Biblical God.
I suppose this is all your own interpretation and opinion just like everybody else's about your sacred book and just like everybody else it would seem that none of you can agree on any particular interpretation of it and that is exactly why people are turning away from it and don't believe what is written anymore in your sacred book.
Well, the Scriptures told us this day would come. As stated in 2 Timothy chapter 4, verses 3 and 4.
because the time will come when people will not listen to the true teaching but will find many more teachers who please them by saying the things they want to hear. They will stop listening to the truth and will begin to follow false stories.
The Biblical account just accurately states what will be. If the oppsite had occured, then the Biblical account would of been considered wrong. Yet here again, the Bible tells us this was to be expected.
Were Christians in the centuries before the Protestant Reformation biblically "literate"? Most couldn't read or write, believing those things taught to them by Roman Catholic and Orthodox priests. How does your bible verse fit here?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
