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>> On one extreme:
Atheists and disbelievers always say the religion is so and so and it is bad, backwardedness, myths …etc.
While not every religion is true and correct: what a great difference is between the idolatry: worshipping stones and statues on one hand, and between the devotion to God alone without associate or equal.
Therefore, this is their trick: they mix the bad religion of worshipping stones with the true religion of worshipping God alone; then they with the same design say:
all these deities: God (: Allah, Yahweh), Astroth, Baal, Tur and all other gods are the same; because they are deities worshipped by people in the past and at the present.
But what a great difference between God the Creator of the entire universe and the Lord of all nations and between such idols as Astaroth or Tur and other stony statues and idols.
Now, I think they cannot cheat people by such tricks; people now are educated and can distinguish the truth from falsehood.
And on other hand, it is not every man is guided in spite of that he may know the truth: he may be disgusted or may dislike it for many reasons, or may be proud over following the truth of the Quran and that Prophet Mohammed was the truthful apostle that conveyed the message without alteration as did he hear it from the angel.
So we are between two wrong extremes:
>> atheism on one hand,
>> and on the other hand the false religion of associating the patron Jesus, saints, Jewish sages, Muslim imams and the idols of idolaters together with God Almighty.
>> On the other extreme:
People should not hold fast with Jewish sages, Christian saints, and Muslim imams and sheikhs apart from God; neither should they sanctify their graves and shrines;
Because the saints and imams died and passed away, and their spiritual souls transferred to heaven, and went to the neighborhood of their Lord.
And none of them remained on the earth [because they were righteous and devoted to God alone so they went to Paradise in Heaven following their death] and nothing other than their rotten and decayed bodies are included in their graves.
God – be glorified – said in the Quran 32: 4
اللَّهُ الَّذِي خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا فِي سِتَّةِ أَيَّامٍ ثُمَّ اسْتَوَى عَلَى الْعَرْشِ مَا لَكُم مِّن دُونِهِ مِن وَلِيٍّ وَلَا شَفِيعٍ ..الخ
The explanation:
(It is God Who created the heavens and the earth [: the planets including the earth] and what [moons and meteorites] between them in six [of the] days [of the Hereafter.] Then He mounted the throne.
You have not, apart from Him, any patron nor any intercessor …etc.)
It means: Don't choose for yourselves, patrons, from among creatures, that you sanctify and worship besides God; eventhough they are Jesus or other prophets or angels of high rank; or you choose them as your intercessors with God;
Because on Judgment Day, the intercession, as a whole, belongs to God, and no being can intercede for behalf of any being unless God Himself gives them permission to do so: to save anyone from the punishment.
Moreover, the intercessor cannot intercede for the behalf of anyone whom he likes: no, the intercession is restricted for the monotheists: the devoted to God alone, and not for the atheists, the associaters and idolaters.
An Hour with Ghosts (http://quran-ayat.com/an_hour_with_ghosts.htm#The_Devotion_Should_Exclus ively_Be_to_God_and_the_Intercession_Is_Up_to_Him - broken link)
These are assumptions based on your personal need for a widely accepted deity. I don't need those assurances. I am happy in my complete life, happy with what I don't yet (or may never...) know, and I am not blindered to the realities around me caused by wild misinterpretations of their meaning.
Just another thread telling us that Islam is somehow above any other religion (or none at all). That's the OP's belief, fine. But please stop pushing it in everyone else's face. We all know what you believe; leave us to our preferences and stop trying to make a case.
Just another thread telling us that Islam is somehow above any other religion (or none at all). That's the OP's belief, fine. But please stop pushing it in everyone else's face. We all know what you believe; leave us to our preferences and stop trying to make a case.
There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tâghût[false deities] and believes in the god (God/Allah), then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And the god (God/Allah) is All-Hearer, All-Knower. (256)
>> On one extreme:
Atheists and disbelievers always say the religion is so and so and it is bad, backwardedness, myths …etc.
While not every religion is true and correct: what a great difference is between the idolatry: worshipping stones and statues on one hand, and between the devotion to God alone without associate or equal.
Therefore, this is their trick: they mix the bad religion of worshipping stones with the true religion of worshipping God alone; then they with the same design say:
all these deities: God (: Allah, Yahweh), Astroth, Baal, Tur and all other gods are the same; because they are deities worshipped by people in the past and at the present.
But what a great difference between God the Creator of the entire universe and the Lord of all nations and between such idols as Astaroth or Tur and other stony statues and idols.
Now, I think they cannot cheat people by such tricks; people now are educated and can distinguish the truth from falsehood.
And on other hand, it is not every man is guided in spite of that he may know the truth: he may be disgusted or may dislike it for many reasons, or may be proud over following the truth of the Quran and that Prophet Mohammed was the truthful apostle that conveyed the message without alteration as did he hear it from the angel.
So we are between two wrong extremes:
>> atheism on one hand,
>> and on the other hand the false religion of associating the patron Jesus, saints, Jewish sages, Muslim imams and the idols of idolaters together with God Almighty.
>> On the other extreme:
People should not hold fast with Jewish sages, Christian saints, and Muslim imams and sheikhs apart from God; neither should they sanctify their graves and shrines;
Because the saints and imams died and passed away, and their spiritual souls transferred to heaven, and went to the neighborhood of their Lord.
And none of them remained on the earth [because they were righteous and devoted to God alone so they went to Paradise in Heaven following their death] and nothing other than their rotten and decayed bodies are included in their graves.
God – be glorified – said in the Quran 32: 4
اللَّهُ الَّذِي خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا فِي سِتَّةِ أَيَّامٍ ثُمَّ اسْتَوَى عَلَى الْعَرْشِ مَا لَكُم مِّن دُونِهِ مِن وَلِيٍّ وَلَا شَفِيعٍ ..الخ
The explanation:
(It is God Who created the heavens and the earth [: the planets including the earth] and what [moons and meteorites] between them in six [of the] days [of the Hereafter.] Then He mounted the throne.
You have not, apart from Him, any patron nor any intercessor …etc.)
It means: Don't choose for yourselves, patrons, from among creatures, that you sanctify and worship besides God; eventhough they are Jesus or other prophets or angels of high rank; or you choose them as your intercessors with God;
Because on Judgment Day, the intercession, as a whole, belongs to God, and no being can intercede for behalf of any being unless God Himself gives them permission to do so: to save anyone from the punishment.
Moreover, the intercessor cannot intercede for the behalf of anyone whom he likes: no, the intercession is restricted for the monotheists: the devoted to God alone, and not for the atheists, the associaters and idolaters.
An Hour with Ghosts (http://quran-ayat.com/an_hour_with_ghosts.htm#The_Devotion_Should_Exclus ively_Be_to_God_and_the_Intercession_Is_Up_to_Him - broken link)
It really doesn't matter if we are God believers, athiests or follow someone other than God while on this world. God doesn't need us to believe in Him right now. If our world had not been in the rebellion and had been a normal world, we would all believe in the one God and I'm pretty sure there would be no athiests. Since we have come from darkness, heading toward light, God understands our positions and our world.
If religionists would leave others to their own peace and understanding, that light just might reach us sooner than later.
If we just Be in the world, leave people to their own free will decisions, we can see a better world. Too many people claim to have all the answers but none have become as Jesus was as He was on earth. Tells me that something is wrong with their religion if you ask me.
Love each other and take care of your own soul. That's all God asks of us. No one can save us but ourselves no matter what religionists say. We alone have the power to seek out God and His saving grace. Telling people what they must do or believe is not what God would have us do.
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An Alternate Viewpoint
like what some did in a previous post; or did it go along with the moderator desire?
