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Old 10-15-2009, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Seward, Alaska
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This is my problem with organized religion. People rely on their preacher to tell them what God thinks. However, they never read the "word of God" for themselves.

I'd say 70% of Christians don't know that the bible says its ok to rape a woman, kill homosexuals, or that the Sabbath is on Saturday, not Sunday.


It's ok to rape women, and kill homosexuals?

Apparently you didn't read the part where God says "thou shalt not kill", or the other part where the Bible says fornication (illicit sex) is a sin...

I will agree with you however on Saturday being the Sabbath...not Sunday...
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Old 10-15-2009, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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It's ok to rape women, and kill homosexuals?

Apparently you didn't read the part where God says "thou shalt not kill", or the other part where the Bible says fornication (illicit sex) is a sin...

I will agree with you however on Saturday being the Sabbath...not Sunday...
I didn't say it wasn't contradictory
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Old 10-15-2009, 05:53 PM
 
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Once again, anti-theism not understanding that there is a difference between belief in a single religion (christianity) and belief in GOD. Most people in America believe in GOD, as is proven by scientific polls, and not sensationalists articles: ARIS 2008 Report: Highlights - American Religious Identification Survey 2008 (http://www.americanreligionsurvey-aris.org/reports/highlights.html - broken link)


"The study detailed Americans' deep and broad religiosity, finding that 92 percent believe in God or a universal spirit -- including one in five of those who call themselves atheists."

Most Americans Believe in Higher Power, Poll Finds - washingtonpost.com

So, if anything, between the article above, which states that 1 in five atheists really aren't atheist, and the ARIS survey, which shows the growth of non-believers declining, not that Americans are "faking religiosity".

But, if you mean "Are Americans believing in GOD but carrying less about the Bible", I would have to say, yes, indeed, they are.
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:11 PM
 
Location: California
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Absolutely. Most people I've known have faked their religious beliefs. Not all, but most.
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:13 PM
 
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I do think part of it is so there is a group of "other people" who "we" can feel superior/more righteous than in order to make "us" feel better. Wait...what's this "we" and "us" business? I'm no part of it.
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Personally I think many people lie in these religious surveys...They say they go to church regularly (39% say at least once a week when there are nowhere near that many pews in all the nations churches) when they don't, claim to read the bible, while at the same time have very little knowledge of what is in it.
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:00 PM
 
Location: 30-40°N 90-100°W
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This is my problem with organized religion. People rely on their preacher to tell them what God thinks. However, they never read the "word of God" for themselves.

I'd say 70% of Christians don't know that the bible says its ok to rape a woman, kill homosexuals, or that the Sabbath is on Saturday, not Sunday.
There are books after Deuteronomy. For that matter there's books after Chronicles. I get the sense many of you atheists/nontheists never get that far, but I'm not making up the New Testament or the Wisdom books. They do exist.
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:11 PM
 
Location: New York City
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There are books after Deuteronomy. For that matter there's books after Chronicles. I get the sense many of you atheists/nontheists never get that far....
This is why I started a thread here wondering if Christians are embarrassed by those books from Chronicles and back.

For the record, however, I read beyond the books of Chronicles a few times. I will admit there is some beautiful and glorious language in some parts, but then again, god evolves and gets a little more civilized with the stroke of a "pen."
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:01 PM
 
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There are books after Deuteronomy. For that matter there's books after Chronicles. I get the sense many of you atheists/nontheists never get that far, but I'm not making up the New Testament or the Wisdom books. They do exist.
That does not change the fact that the Bible does say those things and much worse... and it is supposed to be the infallible word of God, right?

For the record, I have read it all, and there are some good and noble concepts espoused, but I do not believe that it is the infallible word of God.
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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That does not change the fact that the Bible does say those things and much worse... and it is supposed to be the infallible word of God, right?

For the record, I have read it all, and there are some good and noble concepts espoused, but I do not believe that it is the infallible word of God.
I sure hope it's not...Some very nasty stuff in that old book.
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