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you say that there is only God and without the the triune there is no God ... yup, that makes perfect sense....
The finite cannot fully understand and comprehend the infinite. It's not suppose to make sense. But if God says "This is how I am" , we need to accept it.
The finite cannot fully understand and comprehend the infinite. It's not suppose to make sense. But if God says "This is how I am" , we need to accept it.
Why are we to merely "accept" what some goatherder said some 2000 odd years ago? If it is not supposed to make sense to us, how then did ME goatherders with far less knowledge and acumen compared to today's folk work it all out?
Secondly, the NT overwhelmingly suggests a binity at best and the concept of the hs being part of the godhead came about after 400 years post your jesus' alleged death and resurrection.
Not that this matters personally; as neither your god nor your jesus are provable in their alleged existence outside your big book. So too understand the triangular godhead, you:
need to read the bibel which will make no sense unless you have the hs to "reveal" it to you
you cannot find the hs unless you read a book which will not make sense
Yup, perfect logic, check your mind in at the door when entering said church/faith.
As an ex theist, I could do a whole better apologetic than this albeit still circular logic.
All these mysteries and the inerrant wurd of your god cannot come up with a rational explanation?
Odd that there are non trinitarians in your neck of the woods, but I guess them folks are not true believers, eh?
The reality is, the whole jesus story is a conglomeration of ancient pagan beliefs, each with their own triune and virgin born resurrected deity(ies), your triune one is just another in the long list of equally bizarre myths. At least the Jews whom you folk base your religion on are consistent with monotheism, it does not matter how you wiggle of squirm, the xian faith is one that has a polytheistic approach.
I'll give it a whirl as an evangelical christian. Firstly, in Genesis God sent
Moses the dialog of Genesis. (Gen 1:26) God said "Let "us" make man in
"our" likeness" This implies our assumes Father,Son and Holy Spirit the three manifestations of ONE God were about to create man and woman.
God out of love decided that the sinful nature established by Adam and Eve would be able to be repented (by those who believed in His son
Jesus christ or a free gift of salvation A blood sacrifice for all mankinds sin
would be necessary.
Jesus (co-equal with God or God in the flesh was not only born but born via conception by the Holy Spirit and Mary (the human element) and a lineage to the House of David (God favored David).
Why the human??? Well Jesus became the lamb (keep in mind in the OT the Messiah is to slay the Lamb or seemingly oddly ...himself! ("using" the Romans to complete the pact with God) But why human??? If Jesus wasn't human he could not have SUFFERED (and he did big time) and DIE on the Cross.
Prior to his death Jesus said some pretty legalistic seemingly blasphemous
stuff. Jew who knew the I'am is God, they ask if He was God. He relied
I'am he whom you speak. Well off to the cross on that one alone!!! Jesus
said "I and my father are ONE" "If you have seen me you HAVE seen the Father" "I'am the Alpha Omega the beginning and the end" "I comein
my fathers name" King of Kings Lord of Lords and so on (lots of God stuff)
The Holy Spirit is the comforter Since Jesus assended into heaven we now have His spirit in us . We pray for understanding and faith.
I like the doubting Thomas response when Jesus sprung on him post res-
urrection from the dead . Thomas finally "got it" and Said "My Lord and
my God"
Jesus said "No one goes to the Father but by me" This eliminates saints
icons ,people,relics,signs.that which has anthing to do with intercessory prayer unles to Jesus vigil lights,insense,ceremony,blessing , sacraments,
pagan entities.prophets,monuments (east ,west north or south).
Hope this helps there is much more but its late and my mind is fried lol.
"some' of the early christians wanted to worship Jesus as 'God' while still worshiping only 'one God' so they came up with the convoluted theory known as the 'trinity',which appears no where in the bible....just my opinion,your thoughts may vary
early Christians??? Maybe Catholics..... It's all about syncretism people. I agree though, TRINITY NOT IN THE BIBLE
I'll give it a whirl as an evangelical christian. Firstly, in Genesis God sent
Moses the dialog of Genesis. (Gen 1:26) God said "Let "us" make man in
"our" likeness" This implies our assumes Father,Son and Holy Spirit the three manifestations of ONE God were about to create man and woman.
Possible explanation, but here are some more:
Maybe that is the royal "us".
Maybe he was talking to angels.
The Trinity is difficult to explain. There are definitely three separate beings acting in one purpose. All three beings are called "God" in the Bible at least once.
The best earthly example is God's design for marriage - "the two shall be one flesh." Two separate beings are one. I don't know how it works, but that's what God sees from His point of view - so I accept it by faith.
The finite cannot fully understand and comprehend the infinite. It's not suppose to make sense. But if God says "This is how I am" , we need to accept it.
Does your 'finite mind' fully understand and comprehend the infinite? As far as 'we need to accept it...' No, we don't need to accept anything that another person interprets as true. Because that is all it is: a person's interpretation. God did not write the book, and if there is such a Being, It certainly did not write the above two links.
The Trinity is difficult to explain. There are definitely three separate beings acting in one purpose. All three beings are called "God" in the Bible at least once.
The best earthly example is God's design for marriage - "the two shall be one flesh." Two separate beings are one. I don't know how it works, but that's what God sees from His point of view - so I accept it by faith.
Ok so its 3 beings acting in one purpose. That makes alot more sense than what others said.
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Explaining the Tinity
