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Originally Posted by Jazzymom
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Originally Posted by Shiloh1
Yes, I hear you but there are vast differences between Jesus and Mohammed. Early Christians did not go an a rampage of Jewish persucution when they rejected them and Jesus - in fact it was the other way around. That is the foundation of Christianity despite the sporadic justifications of persecution from later so-called Christians - Christianity is based on the teachings of Christ and His life and the writings found in the NT - which is wholly contray to those justifications. I can't say the same for Islam.
I was not responding to the first post but to your post. No I won't go away. This is a public forum so I can respond as I want. But I guess you feel the need to become insulting. Do I care? NO......
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I don't think u know much about Islam.
Anyways the people who persecuted Jesus and paul were Jews, not Romans. Maybe u mean as the religion spread the Romans came in.
Persecution of early Christians in Judea
Early Christianity began as a sect among early
Jews and according to the New Testament account,
Pharisees, including
Paul of Tarsus prior to his conversion to Christianity, persecuted early Christians. The early Christians preached a Messiah which did not conform to the expectations of the time.
[2] However, feeling that he was presaged in
Isaiah's
Suffering Servant and in all of Jewish scripture, Christians had been hopeful that their countrymen would accept their vision of a New Israel.
[2] Despite many individual conversions, a fierce opposition was found in their countrymen.
[2]
The Crucifixion of St. Peter by
Caravaggio
Dissention began almost immediately with the teachings of
Stephen at Jerusalem (unorthodox by contemporaneous Jewish standards), and never ceased entirely while the city remained.
[2] A year after the crucifixion of Jesus, Stephen was stoned for his alleged transgression of unorthodoxy,
[3] with
Saul (who later converted and was renamed
Paul) heartily agreeing.
In A.D. 41, when
Agrippa I, who already possessed the territory of Antipas and Phillip, obtained the power of
procurator in Judea, hence re-forming the Kingdom of Herod, he was reportedly eager to endear himself to his Jewish subjects and continued the persecution in which James the lesser lost his life, Peter narrowly escaped and the rest of the apostles took flight.
[2]
After Agrippa's death, the Roman procuratorship resumed and those leaders maintained a neutral peace, until the procurator Festus died and the high priest Annas II took advantage of the power vacuum to attack the Church and executed James the greater, then leader of Jerusalem's Christians.
[2] The New Testament states that
Paul was himself imprisoned on several occasions by Roman authorities, stoned by Pharisees and left for dead on one occasion, and was eventually taken as a prisoner to Rome.
Peter and other early Christians were also imprisoned, beaten and harassed. A Jewish revolt, spurred by the Roman killing of 3,000 Jews, led to the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, the end of sacrificial Judaism, and the disempowering of the Jewish persecutors; the Christian community, meanwhile, having fled to safety in the already pacified region of
Pella.
[2] The early persecution by the Jews is estimated to have a death toll of about 2,000.
[3] The Jewish persecutions were trivial when compared with the brutal and widespread persecution by the Romans.
[3]
It was trivial because they were seen as still a small community. I don't think you know much about Islam, at least not the Koran. There is no difference between Muhammad and Jesus. But there is a huge difference between Islam and Christianity. There is no difference between the Gospel and the Koran. Thats because:
The Torah is from God and the Talmud is by man.
The Gospel is from God and the Trinity is from man.
The Koran is from God but the Sunnah is from man.
I follow God and not man.
Say: "O People of the Book! Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by
the Law, the Gospel and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord...." (Surah 5, Al Ma'idah, verse 68)
If only they had stood fast by
the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course: But many of them follow a course that is evil. (Surah 5, Maida, verse 69)
2.41 And believe in what I
reveal, confirming the revelation which is with you, and be not the first to reject Faith therein, nor sell My Signs for a small price; and fear Me, and Me alone.
2.89 And when there comes to them a
Book from God, confirming what is with them,- although from of old they had prayed for victory against those without Faith,- w
hen there comes to them that which they (should) have recognized, they refuse to believe in it but the curse of Allah is on those without Faith.
2.91 When it is said to them, “Believe in what God Hath sent down, “they say, “We believe in what was sent down to us:†yet they reject all besides,
even if it be Truth confirming what is with them. Say: “Why then have ye slain the prophets of Allah in times gone by, if ye did indeed believe?â€
Let the People of
the Gospel judge by what God hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what God hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel. (Surah 5, Maida, verse 47)
But why do they come to thee for decision,
when they have the Law(Torah) before them?- Therein is the (plain) command of God; yet even after that, they would turn away. For they are not (really) people of faith. (Surah 5, Maida, verse 43)
Koran confirms the Torah and Gospel and attacks the Talmud and Trinity.
The Muslims came with their own Talmud and called it Sunnah.
Maybe its that Islam u r talking about. Only the Koran is Islam.