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Old 11-29-2016, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I am visiting my boyfriend in another city, staying over for the week. He lives in a very nice looking building but cheaply made. You can hear people walking and pretty much everything that they do. I thought my boyfriend was being over sensitive when he first moved in and I didn't realize it was a serious problem. That his down stairs neighbor pounding the ceiling on the regular basic ( from 3 to 5 times a day and more and more as time goes by) even when he is sitting at his desk or laying on his bed, when is not walking nor standing. Ever since I got here last weekend I realized, my boyfriend was being serious, she would pounding on the ceiling when I'm sitting in the sofa studying. Today, she just exploded and knock on our door. I couldn't let my boyfriend argue with her because I'm afraid she claimed that he scared her or something so I talked to her. BUT YES SHE WAS INSANE just like my boyfriend said, I try to explain to her that, 50% of the time, when she pound on the ceiling, we weren't even moving, she star calling me liar and stuff, and then she laid her back on the door side so I couldn't close the door, so I tried to explain to her again, but she just screamed at me, then I realized she is worthless for me to explain, I told her, call the police if you think we are too loud. She said, people don't call the police for things like this, I told her if she doesn't, I will, if the pounding keep on happening. So I got a little angry and said, you are imagining and crazy. So then, she is saying you cannot just say that, I told her normal people do not do that. then she walked away after yelling at me.

So now I am a little worried, she does not seem like a normal reasonable person and we think she live by herself, I am about to leave in a few days, what if she come up again when my boyfriend is home alone. I am worry that she will attack my boyfriend with a knife or smack his car or something like that.

We try to not walk at all, e.g. when I'm in need of water, I will wait to I really need it then I will get up and get it. same applies to bathroom visits, I will not go unless I MUST have to go. We do not weight as much either. We have upstairs too, I think the noise is manageable for most people's sensibilities.

To be honest, I don't feel safe, because whenever she starts the pounding, today my body starts to shake from anxiety. Last night, I hear her dog barking and crying-ish( like being beaten) I feel like she was hitting her dog, that why I think she might be a violent person. I think she is about same age as my boyfriend and I(25-ish.)

SO WHAT SHOULD WE DO?
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Old 11-29-2016, 07:58 PM
 
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Let your bf deal with it and you stay out of it completely. You should never have said a word to her. It is not your place and you are not even on the lease so you have absolutely zero right to get involved.

Tell your bf to speak with management or better yet, tell him to write a letter letting them know what his concerns and problems are and see if they offer any help or suggestions. That way it is documented with a paper trail, if needed. If they don't seem responsive or willing to help then there is not much you can do unless/until she pulls something or threatens him somehow that would actually warrant a call to the police. That is why he is best to stay on it with the LLs to try and get them to remedy the situation because my first suggestion would have been to try and speak with her about the problem but we know that is not going to work now. He may just end up having to move if he can't find a resolution or can't stand it any longer. Sad but true.

Also, read the lease and see if it states anything regarding his right to 'quiet enjoyment'. If it does, then point that out to the LL/mgmt also. It even appears to be bordering on harassment. If it doesn't say anything in your lease regarding quiet enjoyment then look up your city ordinance regarding it and see if there is any recourse for his situation. But don't be surprised at all if there is nothing in the lease or city ordinances to help with your particular situation.

I know it sucks big time and many, many of us have gone through similar or are going through it now. So, it is not that I am downplaying it by any means. Quite the contrary. But it appears that she can't be reasoned with so take the other steps and see if that works for 'him' (not you). When and if your name gets put on the lease you will have a bit more say in the matter.
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Sugarmill Woods , FL
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Joys of apartment living!
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:22 PM
 
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Renting is where you pay a premium to enjoy temporary, impaired sanity.
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Let your bf deal with it and you stay out of it completely. You should never have said a word to her. It is not your place and you are not even on the lease so you have absolutely zero right to get involved.

Tell your bf to speak with management or better yet, tell him to write a letter letting them know what his concerns and problems are and see if they offer any help or suggestions. That way it is documented with a paper trail, if needed. If they don't seem responsive or willing to help then there is not much you can do unless/until she pulls something or threatens him somehow that would actually warrant a call to the police. That is why he is best to stay on it with the LLs to try and get them to remedy the situation because my first suggestion would have been to try and speak with her about the problem but we know that is not going to work now. He may just end up having to move if he can't find a resolution or can't stand it any longer. Sad but true.

Also, read the lease and see if it states anything regarding his right to 'quiet enjoyment'. If it does, then point that out to the LL/mgmt also. It even appears to be bordering on harassment. If it doesn't say anything in your lease regarding quiet enjoyment then look up your city ordinance regarding it and see if there is any recourse for his situation. But don't be surprised at all if there is nothing in the lease or city ordinances to help with your particular situation.

I know it sucks big time and many, many of us have gone through similar or are going through it now. So, it is not that I am downplaying it by any means. Quite the contrary. But it appears that she can't be reasoned with so take the other steps and see if that works for 'him' (not you). When and if your name gets put on the lease you will have a bit more say in the matter.
Thank you for replying me, the only reason why I decided to talk to her was because she was almost naked when he opened the door(braless and half of the shirt was off, not put together, might be on drugs), my boyfriend was afraid that she might accuse him of assault or battery, since my boyfriend is quite tall and she is not a reasonable person(since he lives in the MIDWEST where you can see KKK flags on the road, we would think that police officers are more likely to be bias toward a white woman, rather than my boyfriend whom is an minority male and since we are both law school student we cannot risk chargers of any kind.) It is quite a harassment issue though, and I will listen to you and not being part of it from now on. However, I do think that I have the right to say something, because being invited to someone's apartment I would be an invitee of the apartment and thus has a right when someone is standing between the owner's door and screaming/harassing at me directly before I said anything. He will speak to the management first thing in the morning! Again, thank you so much for replying!
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Renting is where you pay a premium to enjoy temporary, impaired sanity.
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Joys of apartment living!
Can't wait to buy a house! (yet, house problems LOL)
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:34 PM
 
Location: USA
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Let your bf and landlord deal with her. Do not even answer the door. You might suggest bf tell her if she bothers him again he will call police - and he should......he needs to grow a pair and document incidents.

Do NOT modify the way you walk, talk, etc. Act as if she doesn't exist. She's a nut.

And for all those sneering about apt vs house: Homeowners pay their own plumbing, roofing, lawncare, electrical, heat/AC repair. AND, friends who own a houses in upscale neighborhoods are dealing with loud parties, motorcycles, noise from fighting couples, dogs barking, and screaming kids tossing balls/toys into their yard. Sometimes people who buy or inherit a house are very different from previous owner(s).

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Old 11-29-2016, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Kansas City North
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Curious where in the midwest you see KKK flags from the road?
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Let your bf and landlord deal with her. Do not even answer the door. You might suggest bf tell her if she bothers him again he will call police - and he should......he needs to grow a pair and document incidents.

Do NOT modify the way you walk, talk, etc. Act as if she doesn't exist. She's a nut.

And for all those sneering about apt vs house: Homeowners pay their own plumbing, roofing, lawncare, electrical, heat/AC repair. AND, a close friend who owns a house in upscale neighborhood is dealing with loud parties, motorcycles, noise from fighting couples, dogs barking, and screaming kids tossing balls/toys into her yard.
He will record it next time and document each incident from now on.

House or apt, if insanity has a level, she would be at least a 9 out of 10.

We both lived in and out of (about 10) apartments from undergrad, job, relocation, and now grad school in different cities all over the US, this is the first time we had any problem with the neighbor and hopefully the last time-I highly doubt that- but finger crossed.
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