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Old 12-27-2016, 11:21 AM
 
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Homeowners are far more optimistic than renters about the housing market, according to a new poll.

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But two sub-indexes, representing the psyche of homeowners and renters, revealed the largest gap in confidence in the two years this index has been produced.

Homeowners far more upbeat than renters, poll shows - The Orange County Register
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Old 12-27-2016, 08:04 PM
 
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Homeowners are far more optimistic than renters about the housing market, according to a new poll.

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But two sub-indexes, representing the psyche of homeowners and renters, revealed the largest gap in confidence in the two years this index has been produced.

Homeowners far more upbeat than renters, poll shows - The Orange County Register
Did the ownership cause them to be bullish on the market, or did their bullishness convince them to own?
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Old 12-28-2016, 02:28 AM
 
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like saying Bentley owners are wealthier .

but owning a bentley did not make them wealthier , they own the bentley because THEY ARE wealthier .

home owners are for the most part a wealthier group , that is why they had the resources to buy . renters are a more varied group ranging from very poor to very wealthy all mixed together . you can draw any conclusion you want about renters just by targeting the segment you want to over weight .
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Old 12-28-2016, 02:29 AM
 
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Did the ownership cause them to be bullish on the market, or did their bullishness convince them to own?

Since the vast majority of homeowners have owned their home for more than two years, I'd guess it's mostly ownership causing them to be bullish. (Probably most of the homes purchased in the past two years were bought by investors, not owner-occupants.)

Although I suspect the large 'confidence gap' they cite is more a product of renter pessimism than of homeowner optimism, considering the current rental market and forecast.
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Old 12-28-2016, 02:40 AM
 
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like saying Bentley owners are wealthier .

but owning a bentley did not make them wealthier , they own the bentley because THEY ARE wealthier

In this case, I suspect the poll results are based not on irrational exuberance among homeowners, but by rational despair among renters.
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Old 12-28-2016, 03:01 AM
 
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depends who the renters are . there are many like ourselves who like renting and having no responsibility to any property .we do it by choice .

misery for us was home ownership when every time i got paid a hand came out of the house with something else it needed done .

either that or it ate up our time with chores . no thanks .

if we buy anything again it will be a co-op apartment with no responsibility to it other than make payments .
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Old 12-28-2016, 07:12 AM
 
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If the homeowner is a landlord, that is because after many long years, 10+, rents are finally headed up. That God!

Homeowners are glad that interest rates are lower than they have been in a long time. Most have refinanced.

Many renters are low-paid, and the poll results may not have anything to do with home ownership. If they separate the same people by income, it would make more sense.
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Old 12-28-2016, 08:30 AM
 
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I have always been more upbeat as a homeowner than a renter. I can do what I want with my house, never have to worry about rent going up and have equity.


99% of the time renting long term is not a good idea.
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Old 12-28-2016, 09:14 AM
 
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In this case, I suspect the poll results are based not on irrational exuberance among homeowners, but by rational despair among renters.
I doubt it. I rent because it's a lifestyle choice and I can "afford" to rent. I also prospered by investing the difference all these years and also have zero maintenance problems, etc...ok, well, once in a while I do have to send a quick email to the manager to deal with something usually right before I'm gone to Costa Rica, Thailand, or California for as long as I want because of carefree maintenance and letting the invested dollars I'm to spending on that and a mortgage rip.
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Old 12-28-2016, 09:15 AM
 
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If the homeowner is a landlord, that is because after many long years, 10+, rents are finally headed up. That God!

Homeowners are glad that interest rates are lower than they have been in a long time. Most have refinanced.

Many renters are low-paid, and the poll results may not have anything to do with home ownership. If they separate the same people by income, it would make more sense.
Absolutely. I'm a well off renter and happy about it.
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