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Old 03-03-2012, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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How much does a teacher make? Teachers are public sector workers, so it couldn't be that much, would you say?

According to Maureen Reedy, an elementary instructional specialist in Upper Arlington, Ohio: "After 20 years, most teachers are making $50,000 — woo-hoo. Our pension and our security are part of the long-range outlook of our profession."

And here is the long-range outlook: a teacher's pension can go as high as 3X his/her salary, or $14,525 a month, to be exact.

"After nearly 40 years in public education, Patrick Godwin retired last July at age 59 with a pension paying $174,308 a year for the rest of his life. His pension payout follows 36 years as an English teacher and school administrator in California, with two years' sick-leave credit added for never being absent.

Such guaranteed pensions for relatively youthful government retirees — paid in similar fashion to millions nationwide — are contributing to nationwide friction with the public sector workers. They have access to attractive defined-benefit pensions and retiree health care coverage that most private sector workers no longer do."


Public retirement ages come under greater scrutiny - Yahoo! News
Now that most private sector employees have has their pensions bankrupted or stolen or voided, and property taxes are forcing seniors out of their paid-for homes, this situation MUST be addressed.

I think plenty will be addressed in the coming collapse.
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Old 03-03-2012, 06:18 PM
 
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This thread needs to be in the controversy section.
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Old 03-03-2012, 06:43 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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The pensions teachers receive is the result of collective bargaining. Both sides agreed. I don't see any reason to dump on teachers. I'm jealous, but not resentful. Teachers serve about as important role in society is there is.
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Old 03-03-2012, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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I don't know if this will interest anyone but feel free to click and scroll down to choose your state.

Teacher Salaries By State | Average Salaries For Teachers | Beginning Salaries For Teachers | Teacher Raises | TeacherPortal.com


I found one of my state and clicked on each individual Municipaity. Geez my County is very expensive. Not all teachers make $50k some do some make less and some make more.
What kind of bugs me is the teachers who are complaining about having to deal with impossible parents. Well I was in customer service for most of my working life and I had to deal with impossible customers and clients.

Medical personel have to deal with impossible patients. Performers have to deal with impossible audiences and so on.

It's all a part of dealing with the public. If you choose to do it, don't whine about it and don't expect to get paid more for it.
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Old 03-03-2012, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Now that most private sector employees have has their pensions bankrupted or stolen or voided, and property taxes are forcing seniors out of their paid-for homes, this situation MUST be addressed.

I think plenty will be addressed in the coming collapse.
Yep! The reasoning ability of many people is indeed collapsing.
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Old 03-03-2012, 08:23 PM
 
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What kind of bugs me is the teachers who are complaining about having to deal with impossible parents. Well I was in customer service for most of my working life and I had to deal with impossible customers and clients.

Medical personel have to deal with impossible patients. Performers have to deal with impossible audiences and so on.

It's all a part of dealing with the public. If you choose to do it, don't whine about it and don't expect to get paid more for it.

That is a very good and valid point. I have to deal with people who are unsatisfied too and so does my Supervisor and we don't get more money for it. Yes 50k is high to me because it's more than what I make but it's also about fair considering that going to HS today involves putting their lives on the line with all the gun shootings over the years. That can be avoided with proper precationary action.

Also why get more money for working more hours a day when that is made up in comp time during summer vacation. My real peeve is when teachers and administrators make 100k and over. That is an insane salary and I'm not sorry I don't care how much education they have. If they want that kind of money then the School system may have to be privatized. The problem with that is not everyone can afford to pay for private School.
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Old 03-03-2012, 09:08 PM
 
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The irony of so much about teacher salaries is that they are set by local government in many states which are voted upon by the local citizenry. Many communities with the highest pay for teachers are affluent and those citizens want to use salary to get the best teachers for their kids. They don't mind paying and in comparison to their salaries teacher pay isn't excessive. Its folks elsewhere who get upset about a teacher some where else making a lot of money even if they aren't paying for it. Remember there are over 2.8 million K-12 teachers in the United States and who wants their kid to have number 2 million-2.8 million etc. Or who wants a teacher for their kid in the lower half of that group. So many communities and states are willng to pay to get the best for their kids and let the weaker go to the lower paying districts. If you don't like your local schools pay for teachers vote for other elected officials and let them set a lower budget for education. Some districts have done that and their teachers don't get paid as much and often the better teachers leave for the higher paying areas. It is all about the market place we all love so much. Before you yell union look at the benefits in some non union states.
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:23 AM
 
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Default Who Worry about Their Pensions? Not High School Teachers.

Who Worry about Their Pensions? Not High School Teachers.

Neither do government paid employees making $30.00 an hour and up. Especially when they get paid for 40 hours a week on that salary. These people can afford to take the money deducted from their pay for the pension and invest it in their deferred comp., or somewhere else where they can make more of a profit to save up for their retirement. This would save the taxpayers an enormous amount of money. It's time to give the employees a choice and slowly cut back on those over paid pensions.

Vested pensions paid for by taxpayers should not exist when certain employees make more than enough money to invest it themselves. You people would fall over if you saw some of hourly rates/salaries public paid employees make and then not only get paid for unused sick time but get a vested pension on the taxpayers back. It's not just some of the teachers and mostly Administrators who get high paying pensions.
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:38 AM
 
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Who Worry about Their Pensions? Not High School Teachers.

Neither do government paid employees making $30.00 an hour and up. Especially when they get paid for 40 hours a week on that salary. These people can afford to take the money deducted from their pay for the pension and invest it in their deferred comp., or somewhere else where they can make more of a profit to save up for their retirement. This would save the taxpayers an enormous amount of money. It's time to give the employees a choice and slowly cut back on those over paid pensions.

Vested pensions paid for by taxpayers should not exist when certain employees make more than enough money to invest it themselves. You people would fall over if you saw some of hourly rates/salaries public paid employees make and then not only get paid for unused sick time but get a vested pension on the taxpayers back. It's not just some of the teachers and mostly Administrators who get high paying pensions.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:40 PM
 
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ok why did you click quote my post and have absolutely nothing to say?
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