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View Poll Results: Do You Believe Assisted Suicide as Currently Practiced in the 3 States in the U.S. is a Desirable an
Yes 127 79.38%
No 26 16.25%
Undecided 7 4.38%
Voters: 160. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-17-2013, 08:30 AM
 
Location: middle tennessee
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Ah, but I am an atheist so there is no god to dictate to me. See why it is difficult for people like myself? We try to get laws passed for assisted suicide and those with other religious/spiritual beliefs infringe. Non the less, the Hemlock Society is there to advise us on how to mix meds to kill ourselves when the time arrives.
For most, by the time we are ready to give up the ghost for health reasons, we have the tools at hand in the form of the same prescriptions we take to keep our selves alive.

I don't understand wanting to involve the government, or for that matter, other people. If you have waited so long that you are unable to deal with the issue yourself, perhaps a trusted friend, but not the government.

All I would have to do is eat a big dinner and then take a long walk or sit out on the porch in freezing weather. I think you all are making this harder than it really is in most cases.

Understand, I am talking about people who have serious physical issues to begin with. If you want to commit suicide for mental/emotional reasons and are otherwise "healthy", I would be extremely careful. You might end up alive and worse off than you are now.

I believe that we need strong moral/social bans against certain activities, but I don't see the need to involve the government by enacting laws on this issue. Its a step, in my opinion, towards a slippery slope where others may feel comfortable making your end of life decisions for you..... in your best interest.

My husband wanted to live and believed every day that his doctor might be able to cure him. He never gave up hope, even in the face of the obvious. I think he was just as entitled to his choice as I am to mine.
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Old 12-17-2013, 10:31 AM
 
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For most, by the time we are ready to give up the ghost for health reasons, we have the tools at hand in the form of the same prescriptions we take to keep our selves alive.

I don't understand wanting to involve the government, or for that matter, other people. If you have waited so long that you are unable to deal with the issue yourself, perhaps a trusted friend, but not the government.

All I would have to do is eat a big dinner and then take a long walk or sit out on the porch in freezing weather. I think you all are making this harder than it really is in most cases.

Understand, I am talking about people who have serious physical issues to begin with. If you want to commit suicide for mental/emotional reasons and are otherwise "healthy", I would be extremely careful. You might end up alive and worse off than you are now.

I believe that we need strong moral/social bans against certain activities, but I don't see the need to involve the government by enacting laws on this issue. Its a step, in my opinion, towards a slippery slope where others may feel comfortable making your end of life decisions for you..... in your best interest.

My husband wanted to live and believed every day that his doctor might be able to cure him. He never gave up hope, even in the face of the obvious. I think he was just as entitled to his choice as I am to mine.

The only reason I would like to see legislation on it is to relieve any person who assists, of any criminal or civil liability. And what if, for instance, I was in the hospital, terminal, and could not get to my stash of prescription drugs at home, which would do the trick. I would need assistance in the suicide.
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Old 12-17-2013, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Sarasota Florida
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Living in Oregon, when my friend Jerry was near the end stage of pancreatic cancer he wanted to initiate the Oregon Death with Dignity law but it was too late for him as his mental condition was altered by the drugs he had been taking for pain, etc. The law does not always work for everyone in Oregon. I voted yes, of course.
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:33 AM
 
Location: middle tennessee
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The only reason I would like to see legislation on it is to relieve any person who assists, of any criminal or civil liability. And what if, for instance, I was in the hospital, terminal, and could not get to my stash of prescription drugs at home, which would do the trick. I would need assistance in the suicide.
I hope this doesn't sound harsh because I don't mean it that way, but in the scenario you describe, I would say you waited too long. I am not going to the hospital if I can avoid it and I have a DNR if I do.

As ConeyIsBabe illustrates in her post, there is probably no fail safe plan, even in states where asissted suicide is legal.

I've made my plan and I'm hoping for the best outcome.
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Northern panhandle WV
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I am against it on religious grounds. It is against the laws of God that is it. No further comment required.
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Old 12-17-2013, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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I hope this doesn't sound harsh because I don't mean it that way, but in the scenario you describe, I would say you waited too long. I am not going to the hospital if I can avoid it and I have a DNR if I do.

As ConeyIsBabe illustrates in her post, there is probably no fail safe plan, even in states where asissted suicide is legal.

I've made my plan and I'm hoping for the best outcome.
What would happen in LivingDeadGirl's situation is that the drugs could be brought to her or she could take them with her and she could take them by her self. They couldn't be administered by a doctor or nurse. At least that's how I understand how it works.

But if you are taken to the hospital unconscious, of course, no one is allowed to administer the drugs to you. You can have a DNR at the ready though so you won't be revived. They have to let you die.
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Old 12-18-2013, 03:42 PM
 
Location: in the miseries
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I would not want to be a burden to anyone if I had a debilitating disease.
Lou Gehrigs, parkinson.s etc.
A woman I went to school with has been in a nursing home with m s
For 20 years. She can do nothi NGO for herself.
Spare me from this misery.
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Old 12-20-2013, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, NC
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My DW doesn't agree with me (YET), but I'll be damned if I was going to live in an assisted-living environment where they will do nothing more for me than drain our family finances just so I can sit in a high chair in the dayroom facing the TV. That is no way to live. If I cannot be a productive member of society, then I want "to go" and let my family use our finances to continue their lives.

I also think that legal suicide will prevent the horrible position of people having to discover the bodies of their loved ones (in whatever shape they're in based on how they ended it for themselves).

There are too many positives NOT to allow legal assisted suicide. For the people with the religious and other reasons not to do it, don't do it! If St. Peter doesn't let me in the gates when I get up there because I chose not to live like a zombie, then so be it. I don't think it will matter much to me at that point!
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Old 12-20-2013, 07:04 PM
 
Location: in my mind
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The international right to die conference is being held in Chicago in 2014 for those who are interested in this topic. There will be speakers from several different countries discussing the topic of providing means for a peaceful death for those who seek it.
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Old 12-20-2013, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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My DW doesn't agree with me (YET), but I'll be damned if I was going to live in an assisted-living environment where they will do nothing more for me than drain our family finances just so I can sit in a high chair in the dayroom facing the TV. That is no way to live. If I cannot be a productive member of society, then I want "to go" and let my family use our finances to continue their lives.

I also think that legal suicide will prevent the horrible position of people having to discover the bodies of their loved ones (in whatever shape they're in based on how they ended it for themselves).

There are too many positives NOT to allow legal assisted suicide. For the people with the religious and other reasons not to do it, don't do it! If St. Peter doesn't let me in the gates when I get up there because I chose not to live like a zombie, then so be it. I don't think it will matter much to me at that point!
Those who are for it have never tried to force those against to do it but those who are against seem to have the upper hand and have succeeded in forcing their will upon others for whatever reason they find they can use. This must change. Assisted suicide has worked in Oregon. It has not hurt anyone who wasn't interested in availing themselves of its use.

So to those who are not in favor of making use of it, I won't force you to use assisted suicide and you mind your own business if I want to use it.
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