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Old 11-15-2022, 09:13 AM
 
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If a spouse who is getting part of their ex-spouse's ss (as they don't have enough quarters to be eligible on their own but were married to their ex over 10 years) passes away first, does the surviving spouse whose ss they were getting, then start getting their full eligible ss amount (including the part that going to the deceased spouse)?
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Old 11-15-2022, 09:16 AM
 
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All spousal benefits end when one of the parties dies .

Everyone only gets one check

The surviving spouse can take their own or survivor .

They can take survivor first and let theirs grow if that is higher or they can take their own first while waiting for fra to take survivor..which ever works out better
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Old 11-15-2022, 10:20 AM
 
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The spouse getting the spousal SS does not take anything away from their ex-spouse. The ex-spouse always receives the full amount of SS they are entitled to. It's not split between the two people. There was no "part" going anywhere.
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Old 11-15-2022, 10:22 AM
 
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If a spouse who is getting part of their ex-spouse's ss (as they don't have enough quarters to be eligible on their own but were married to their ex over 10 years) passes away first, does the surviving spouse whose ss they were getting, then start getting their full eligible ss amount (including the part that going to the deceased spouse)?
If I understand your question correctly, it seems you are under the mistaken idea that Person #1 by collecting a spousal benefit based on the work record of their (current or former) spouse, Person #2, is in some way reducing the benefit that Person #2 is collecting. That is not true. Person #2 collects a benefit based on their work/earnings record. It is neither increased or decreased by a spouse, an ex-spouse, or the death of a spouse or ex-spouse.

Spouses (and ex-spouses) who get a spousal benefit do not affect what a person gets based on their own work/earnings record. It's not "taken out of" their own earned benefit. It's for the benefit of the spouse, but not at the expense of the higher income earner.
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:00 AM
 
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If I understand your question correctly, it seems you are under the mistaken idea that Person #1 by collecting a spousal benefit based on the work record of their (current or former) spouse, Person #2, is in some way reducing the benefit that Person #2 is collecting. That is not true. Person #2 collects a benefit based on their work/earnings record. It is neither increased or decreased by a spouse, an ex-spouse, or the death of a spouse or ex-spouse.

Spouses (and ex-spouses) who get a spousal benefit do not affect what a person gets based on their own work/earnings record. It's not "taken out of" their own earned benefit. It's for the benefit of the spouse, but not at the expense of the higher income earner.
Correct, so OP's spouse won't be getting anything extra once the ex passes.
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Old 11-15-2022, 01:15 PM
 
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I imagine this misunderstanding comes from the way people commonly refer to a lower income earning spouse as "getting half" of the other spouse's benefit. I can see how phrasing it that way could lead to a wrong impression.
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Old 11-15-2022, 02:05 PM
 
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I imagine this misunderstanding comes from the way people commonly refer to a lower income earning spouse as "getting half" of the other spouse's benefit. I can see how phrasing it that way could lead to a wrong impression.
You are also here people say stuff like “it’s my money, I earned it”, and I get the reasons politically they say that, but the money you put in was spent long ago. Stuff like that contributes to the confusion
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Old 11-15-2022, 04:16 PM
 
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If a spouse who is getting part of their ex-spouse's ss (as they don't have enough quarters to be eligible on their own but were married to their ex over 10 years) passes away first, does the surviving spouse whose ss they were getting, then start getting their full eligible ss amount (including the part that going to the deceased spouse)?

They have to have been married at least 10 years And to Not have remarried until 60 or later in order to be able to claim a survivor's benefit.
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Old 11-15-2022, 08:09 PM
 
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If a spouse who is getting part of their ex-spouse's ss (as they don't have enough quarters to be eligible on their own but were married to their ex over 10 years) passes away first, does the surviving spouse whose ss they were getting, then start getting their full eligible ss amount (including the part that going to the deceased spouse)?
Spousal benefit on the death of the other becomes survivor benefit.

Someone with not enough credits on their own still won't have much when they turn 70. Someone with a good job thru their 60's may be able to delay until 70. They would get one but not both. Congress did away with double dipping.
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Old 11-15-2022, 08:24 PM
 
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Spousal benefit on the death of the other becomes survivor benefit.

Someone with not enough credits on their own still won't have much when they turn 70. Someone with a good job thru their 60's may be able to delay until 70. They would get one but not both. Congress did away with double dipping.
also they did away with claiming benefits from the ex-spouse first, and then switching over to their own once they got older. that is only available if a person is born before a certain year.
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