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Old 12-08-2020, 10:02 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
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Has anybody seen these testing structures? https://turnto10.com/news/local/seek...ting-structure
Is it really a good idea to go into a tiny little space like that where, with virtual certainty, someone during the 15min before you had covid and tickled their nose, potentially causing a sneeze? Why not take the tests outside? In Asia, they disinfected testing rooms like that completely after every patient. Doubt that's done here.
Do people actually go in? There's a sign about self swabbing.
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Old 12-08-2020, 10:32 PM
 
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On one of the pictures there is a side with "Patient Entrance". The other side is for the personnel.
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Old 12-09-2020, 01:42 AM
 
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Geoff, over 100 million US residents have a condition that could cause severe complications if they contract the virus. High blood pressure, diabetes, obesity, etc.

Also, understand that...

"As many as one in three people who recover from Covid have chronic complaints, including exhaustion and a racing heart, for months afterward. This includes people under 35 with no previous health conditions. Some survivors of Covid also show troubling signs that their body has turned on itself, with symptoms similar to those of lupus and rheumatoid arthritis."

and...

"In a study of more than 3,000 people, ages 18 to 34, who were hospitalized for Covid, 20 percent required intensive care and 3 percent died."


Source for quotes: ‘Natural Immunity’ From Covid Is Not Safer Than a Vaccine (New York Times)
“Could”.....

When it gets into a nursing home, it kills ~15%. That’s the worst case. Of that 100 million you’re throwing around, the majority are in the 99%+ survival category. It’s why the whole hoax thing gets so much traction. For most people, even in the higher risk category, they’re not even exhibiting severe symptoms.

Do I want to contract COVID-19? No. Would it kill me if I did? Probably not. What we don’t want to do is overload the 911 and hospital system. I’m more likely to need that system for “something else” than need it for COVID-19. Heart attack. Car crash. Whatever. I could die because I can’t get proper medical treatment.
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Old 12-10-2020, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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A good explanation of why RI is testing at high rates from Dr Raney:

https://www.providencejournal.com/st...es/6506012002/
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Old 12-10-2020, 08:45 AM
 
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Looking forward to what the governor says (does) today. Her strategy so far has seemed to be based on behavioral wishful thinking rather than health science.

https://www.golocalprov.com/news/edi...testing-has-be
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Old 12-10-2020, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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Looking forward to what the governor says (does) today. Her strategy so far has seemed to be based on behavioral wishful thinking rather than health science.

https://www.golocalprov.com/news/edi...testing-has-be
I don't think it's the gov's fault if some people continue to be stupid and have gatherings for the holidays. She has no control over what people do in their own dining rooms.
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Old 12-10-2020, 09:39 AM
 
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None of this should come as a surprise. This is what happens when decisions are made based on manipulated data that is disguised as "science". It catches up to you.
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Old 12-10-2020, 09:53 AM
 
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I don't think it's the gov's fault if some people continue to be stupid and have gatherings for the holidays. She has no control over what people do in their own dining rooms.
Then as the state currently with the highest infections per capita in the entire country, one is left to assume Rhode Island must have more "stupid" residents per capita than any other state in the union. I think not.
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Old 12-10-2020, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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Then as the state currently with the highest infections per capita in the entire country, one is left to assume Rhode Island must have more "stupid" residents per capita than any other state in the union. I think not.
No, that is not the right conclusion. Did you read what Dr Raney said?

RIers are as stupid as in any other state- neither more nor less. Although, we may value family more.

If you read my link (and previous links) you will see that we have very high rates of testing compared to other states. That skews our numbers.

Not everyone goes to a dr or to the hospital. Some people don't even know they have covid until they get a pos test. Some have it and stay home and never get tested or reported. So, no numbers can be a perfect reflection.

I would love to see what rates Texas or Florida would have, for example, if they had our testing rate.

It seems to me that the data that really matters (to most of us for practical purposes) is:

1. number of deaths and who is dying (for example our nursing home deaths have been awful)
2. number in hospital on ventilators & hospital capacity and staffing
3. number of long haulers and permanently impaired (stats we don't even have yet)
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Old 12-10-2020, 05:14 PM
 
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No, that is not the right conclusion. Did you read what Dr Raney said?

RIers are as stupid as in any other state- neither more nor less. Although, we may value family more.

If you read my link (and previous links) you will see that we have very high rates of testing compared to other states. That skews our numbers.

Not everyone goes to a dr or to the hospital. Some people don't even know they have covid until they get a pos test. Some have it and stay home and never get tested or reported. So, no numbers can be a perfect reflection.

I would love to see what rates Texas or Florida would have, for example, if they had our testing rate.

It seems to me that the data that really matters (to most of us for practical purposes) is:

1. number of deaths and who is dying (for example our nursing home deaths have been awful)
2. number in hospital on ventilators & hospital capacity and staffing
3. number of long haulers and permanently impaired (stats we don't even have yet)
Rhode Island has the highest Covid infection rate in the entire world. Apparently, only the populations of the Republic of Georgia and Serbia come close in their "value of family".
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