Arden-Arcade consider itself part of Sacto or Carmichael/Citrus Heights area?

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Originally Posted by wburg

Sacramento Army Depot was incorporated into the city limits by annexation twice (once when it was on Richards, once when it was in its last location) and there wasn't a city of Rancho Cordova until after Mather AFB closed. McClellan was well outside the city limits. But generally military bases want to run themselves rather than be subject to city government. I think even in very urbanized places (like San Francisco) the military bases were not considered part of the city for purposes of government and administration--Treasure Island didn't become part of San Francisco until a few years ago.

I'm not sure I get Nick's argument about Anaheim--they're smaller than Sacramento, which seems like it contradicts the suggestion that more people=more power. And looking at downtown Anaheim, which seems to consist of a really ugly City Hall building, a megachurch, a couple of mid-rise hotel towers for Disneyland, and a bunch of parking lots, I'm not very impressed by their "big-city ambition."

That's not downtown Anaheim you're describing; much of the energy in Anaheim as far "stadium-like goodies" are concerned is concentrated in the "Platinum Triangle", which is in the southeast central part of town, and takes in part of the adjoining city of Orange. Downtown has its own thing going as far as revitalizing buildings to evoke the orange tree culture that once was the city's maintstay (ie, shopping and dining along Anaheim Blvd. in a revitalized "Packing House" area). Only the City Hall, of the things you mentioned, is even in Downtown; everything else isn't.

I don't know Sac well, but the point that was being made is that you can't make developers or other big concerns jump through any number of hoops multiple times and then expect them to pick your city first as a place in which to expand.

Of course, there is that dark side of Dizzy-land, stadiumville, etc, where some city fathers act almost beholden to the giant corporate players. Pity.

[wburg]

City fathers acting utterly beholden to the giant corporate players is basically how Sacramento is run these days.